All boys school...why?

Anonymous
Or St Albans?
Anonymous
Honestly, if I had to choose, I would go with Gonzaga, purely because of its size. The classes are around 250 per grade, meaning your son will more easily find his people. If you stumble upon a lousy class at any of the other schools, it really sucks not having options for friends.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think now that we are raising boys in a 'man hating' culture, particularly white men, it is more important than ever to put them in all boys schools to help with their confidence.


Oh, PLEASE.


NP. POC here and the first PP is not really wrong
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I went to NCS and I 100 percent agree with you. I would never send my sons to an all boys school after interacting with STA boys throughout high school. A handful of the boys were ok, but they tended to be the ones who didn't fit in well to the school overall.


You are living in the past. I have three daughters and a son much younger than his sisters . My girls told me that of all the boys they knew in high school, the STA boys were uniformly the ones to engage in the most interesting conversations and be the most polite. When our don was choosing between STA and Sidwell and we (the parents) favored a coed school, our daughters advocated for STA (which was our son’s first choice). Our son is now in upper school and I am willing to admit we were wrong and our kids were right and the education and community have been transformative for our son. He is confident to speak and defend his convictions, has made friends with a fantastic group of boys who I am sure bend the rules but for the most part are decent, supportive, hard-working and respectful, and he has been stretched academically. His class has interacted less with NCS because of Covid, but his impression is that many of the girls spout feminist ideas that they have not really thought about themselves, and they are combative in class and seem very unhappy and stressed academically. My impression is that the culture at STA is much less competitive and healthier because the boys support each other. I have not heard any recent complaints about “toxic masculinity “ towards NCS and would absolutely not tolerate it from my kid. I’m sorry your experience was not positive, but please be open to the possibility that things have changed and that STA is a fantastic place for a lot of nice boys.


quoting you "but his impression is that many of the girls spout feminist ideas that they have not really thought about themselves, and they are combative in class and seem very unhappy and stressed academically."

Combative. Feminist. Sounds like how the STA boys used to like to put down NCS girls back in the 90s!

I'll grant you stressed academically is accurate. NCS is harder than STA and the girls work much harder than their counterparts at STA.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, if I had to choose, I would go with Gonzaga, purely because of its size. The classes are around 250 per grade, meaning your son will more easily find his people. If you stumble upon a lousy class at any of the other schools, it really sucks not having options for friends.

Who asked?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I went to NCS and I 100 percent agree with you. I would never send my sons to an all boys school after interacting with STA boys throughout high school. A handful of the boys were ok, but they tended to be the ones who didn't fit in well to the school overall.


What you can say is you wouldn't send your sons to STA.
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Anonymous wrote:You are generalizing, and that is never a good place to start with a school search. How your boys behave will have a lot more to do with how you raised them than where they go to school.


Your choosing their friends though and your parenting can’t control that.


No, you aren't choosing their friends by choosing their school. My kids have friends from many different schools. OP's premise is simply a stereotype, and one one that does not match our lived experience. None of any of my boys' friends would be considered a "bro" by a long, long, long shot. We left public school in part to get away from a group of boys who were toxic to my oldest.


Lol .. 1st sentence.. school don’t = friends

Last sentence.. we left school to get better friends.

Are you day drinking?


If you can't see how that works together, that's a you problem.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Nationally less than 1% of K-12 range schools are all-boys so naturally people will have misconceptions due to limited exposure. In general, evaluate each school separately rather than relying on stereotypes. Touring and meeting families is helpful.


Genuinely curious, is there a difference in culture between Gonzaga, Prep, St Anselms, or Landon?


Of course, it's why people make choices between them. Different sizes, different wealth, different levels of diversity, different locations, Landon isn't Catholic, etc.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are generalizing, and that is never a good place to start with a school search. How your boys behave will have a lot more to do with how you raised them than where they go to school.


Jeff should lock the thread after this response. It was perfect and there is really nothing else to say.



Yes, Jeff should definitely intervene when a random person thinks that no one can possibly add any additional info or nuance, according to random person.
Anonymous
quoting you "but his impression is that many of the girls spout feminist ideas that they have not really thought about themselves, and they are combative in class and seem very unhappy and stressed academically."

Combative. Feminist. Sounds like how the STA boys used to like to put down NCS girls back in the 90s!

I'll grant you stressed academically is accurate. NCS is harder than STA and the girls work much harder than their counterparts at STA.


Why is described by someone as feminist a put down? My son’s sisters would describe themselves that way. However, repeating traditional feminist ideas without having explored them with intellectual rigor suggests more of a “following the party line” than independent thinking.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If you want to avoid some of the problems that plague all boys schools, you should take a look at St. Anselm’s Abbey School.


You’ll get other problems there and worse.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:You are generalizing, and that is never a good place to start with a school search. How your boys behave will have a lot more to do with how you raised them than where they go to school.


Your choosing their friends though and your parenting can’t control that.


No, you aren't choosing their friends by choosing their school. My kids have friends from many different schools. OP's premise is simply a stereotype, and one one that does not match our lived experience. None of any of my boys' friends would be considered a "bro" by a long, long, long shot. We left public school in part to get away from a group of boys who were toxic to my oldest.


Lol .. 1st sentence.. school don’t = friends

Last sentence.. we left school to get better friends.

Are you day drinking?


If you can't see how that works together, that's a you problem.


So you were day drinking.
Anonymous
My DD goes to parties with boys from all types of schools. All boys, coed private coed public.

She said there is no difference. Some are jerks, most are nice. Doesn’t depend on the school.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My boys went coed through 8th, all boys for high school, and co ed for college. Why do you think those 4 years, where the girls are far more mature than the boys, are a crucial, or even good time, for them to be interacting in the classroom? My boys had friends who were girls while in high school. They were in coed activities outside of school. Going to a boys' school was no handicap to interacting with women outside of dating. Actually, not a lot of dating goes on in high school these days anyway.

I actually think it gave them the time and space to grow up and become themselves without worrying all day long about how girls' viewed them, and if they liked them, or dealing with (lets face it) mean girl dynamics targeted at boys, etc. I liked that they could leave all that aside when in the high school classroom and focus on the class. Maturity evens out by college, so the coed environment there is far more important to how they will interact with women in the working world. There is nothing "real world" about the high school years.




Our son also went coed through 8th grade. We chose an all boys school for high school for the same reason as the above poster; boys mature at a different rate than girls. He is very bright and an excellent student, but girls were too much of a distraction for him. His boarding school had numerous "mixers" with girls boarding school, so there are a lot of opportunities for the boys and girls to socialize. We think a single sex educational environment with coed social activities works well. He has all summer to interact with girls, but he will be back in an all male environment for the coming school year.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Same reasons parents send their kids to all-girls schools.

All-boys schools tend to understand boys better. That they need a lot of physical activity, and that them being antsy after a long day isn’t “aggression” or “ADHD.”


This, among other things.

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