Woodward Auditorium Construction Advocacy Ahead of Monday County Council Meeting

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

these subjects sound more like extracurriculars like sports the county would be better served if it just limited its focus to the 3Rs.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

these subjects sound more like extracurriculars like sports the county would be better served if it just limited its focus to the 3Rs.

You seem to be unfamiliar with Maryland's graduation requirements.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

these subjects sound more like extracurriculars like sports the county would be better served if it just limited its focus to the 3Rs.

You seem to be unfamiliar with Maryland's graduation requirements.

They just create more CO jobs and should be slashed.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

these subjects sound more like extracurriculars like sports the county would be better served if it just limited its focus to the 3Rs.

Rhythm, Rhyme and Harmony?

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

these subjects sound more like extracurriculars like sports the county would be better served if it just limited its focus to the 3Rs.

One has nothing to do with the other. Its kinda sad you don't encourage your kids interests.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

That would be too logical.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Wouldn't bother me at all. You seem ill informed if you think that the music classes are only 40 students.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

Or hold off on Northwood going to Woodward for another year until they can get an auditorium in place? The WJ excess waiting for relief can find room at Whitman and Churchill.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

Or hold off on Northwood going to Woodward for another year until they can get an auditorium in place? The WJ excess waiting for relief can find room at Whitman and Churchill.

Why? WJ and other schools can offer their auditorium for a few years. Simple. Or, they can use private venues.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

Or hold off on Northwood going to Woodward for another year until they can get an auditorium in place? The WJ excess waiting for relief can find room at Whitman and Churchill.

They should have pushed it back by one year.

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

Or hold off on Northwood going to Woodward for another year until they can get an auditorium in place? The WJ excess waiting for relief can find room at Whitman and Churchill.

They should have pushed it back by one year.

How would that help?

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Anonymous wrote:Since Einstein and Blair both also have music and arts academies, why can't DCCAPS allow affected Northwood students the option to transfer there for the next 2-3 years or until the auditorium is built?

Or hold off on Northwood going to Woodward for another year until they can get an auditorium in place? The WJ excess waiting for relief can find room at Whitman and Churchill.

Why? WJ and other schools can offer their auditorium for a few years. Simple. Or, they can use private venues.

[Inigo Montoya voice] you keep sating that. I do not think it means what you think it means.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

We are discussing performances. Where will an audience sit I these music classrooms? Are these classrooms big enough for all music ensembles to be together to listen to each other perform multiple times per year? And what about drama productions? Those use a stage for months at a time. Are you suggesting one schools displaces another? You’re not making sense

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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the problem here. So what if they delay an auditorium for a couple of years?

Are they delaying the courses that require an auditorium? No. They are trying to pretend like every school will play nice and share what limited space they have available. It’s such as a shame how little MCPS values or understands the performing arts. Have you not paid attention to decades of brain research?

They'd just practice and hold concerts and plays at another location.

That magical land of endless auditoriums that children can teleport to and be back for their next class! Tell the Council the problem is solved!

Indeed. MCPS certainly can tell Strathmore to move out for several years so they can use the facility...

There are days available. Or, other places in Rockville, like the Fitzgerald theater. They can use other schools too.

You have no idea how HS performing arts programs work, do you?

PS -- Strathmore is losing its Pike & Rose location and having to utilize the main center more. Even if that remark about MCPS using it weren't tongue-in-cheek, those "days available" aren't vwry likely to be there.

Of course I do as I have a high level musician. Mcps is a joke and fun class. A lot of our kids preform outside mcps. Or, they just share another school auditorium.

The pike and rose Strathmore is not something that would work. You clearly don’t have a child performing outside mcps.

As stated, the Pike & Rose closure will have some of those perfomances taking up space at the main hall -- which was put out there in the first place as a hyperbolic example of something MCPS could commandeer at their whim in lieu of an on-campus facility, but then suggested by another as being available some days (as though it was a real option). Pike & Rose wasn't suggested as the place to use, itself.

You don't seem to have a grasp of HS performing arts programs -- the logistics required to make productions happen that underline the need for proximate space, the real limitations for many, many students/families without the resources for private programs (Why on earth are we talking about that as a substitute for MCPS programming?!?), the existing demand for space at other schools, etc., etc.

You have no idea what you are talking about. And, the private groups have scholarships. So, clearly you aren’t involve them.

Really?! You don't say!

Thanks for making it clear that area private groups are well enough funded to take on the role of addressing the arts education needs (including associated transportation) for the 20k+ MCPS high schoolers who demonstrate need. Where's the website for signups?

You can transport your own kids like the rest of us do... there are lots of private groups that offier financial aid. Somehow I doubt you need it but just too lazy to do extra things outside MCPS with your kids since it takes effort on your part.

Swim is not at the schools. And, yet it still seems to work and MCPS will not provide transportation. Why not advocate for a pool at ever school? The decent parents are driving your kids since you refuse to.

Ah...ad hominem attack (and off the mark, to boot). How sweet! You really don't have anything substantive to say here.

Swim is an extracurricular (false equivalence, if not something of a red herring). At least from your statement, there, we can take it that it is provided for (or, in this case, not provided for) equitably -- everyone has to arrange for their own transport off-site.

We are talking, in this topic, about the needs of academic programs in the arts, and the failure of MCPS to provide those programs at this school the necessary/adequate facilities available elsewhere (which, in general, happen to be used by high schools for not-insignificant purposes, besides).

The arts are no different. They can practice in classrooms and do things offsite. Some of the private groups rent space at the high schools. Lots of options. We do several music programs outside mcps. Other high schools can share their space. Wj is very close.

First of all, you’re assuming there even is an empty classroom. Second of all, what arts class can use a classroom? You really want the jazz band doing a sound check and rehearsing next to precious Larla’s advanced math class? What classroom can hold a 40 person chorus class? You people are so ill informed about the arts

Woodward has music classrooms.

We are discussing performances. Where will an audience sit I these music classrooms? Are these classrooms big enough for all music ensembles to be together to listen to each other perform multiple times per year? And what about drama productions? Those use a stage for months at a time. Are you suggesting one schools displaces another? You’re not making sense

No, the immediate PPs were discussing practice and rehearsal.