Still another pit bull attack

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

You are mixing things up. There are dogs who attack because of the way they were raised or treated. Back yard breeders and dog fight clubs for example. Dogs that are chained in the back, not neutered or spayed and not treated as membrrs of the family with food, shelyrr and love.

There are dogs who ate born with anxiety and fear. These are the dogs that try to keep the fearful thing away by barking and lunging. I know personally quite a few pure bred dogs who are like thi.

You just hate pit bull dogs and can't see that other dogs exhibit these behaviors too.

No, pit bulls attack because they were bred for violence. No one needs to make them that way as we can all tell by the beloved family pets who snap one day and eat grandma.

Lots of pit bulls are born with anxiety and fear because of decades of poor breeding. Pit bulls bark and lunge (and bite, you left that part out) because they were bred for violence. The desire to maim doesn’t just go away because Susie Petunia loves her pibble so much.

I can see that other dogs exhibit that behavior. I don’t see breed specific groups gaslighting TF out of people and telling us there’s nothing wrong with these dogs who were (and are) bred for violence. I don’t see Akita owners telling everyone that Akita’s are the bestest dogs for all families. I don’t see German Shepherd owners saying all families should have one. I just see pit bull owners telling everyone that there’s no problem here, no siree!

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

DP but absolutely YES to the bolded when the problematic behavior is aggression that could easily lead to injury or death. You clearly have lost the plot somewhere along the way, so let me help you find it - they’re DOGS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

You are mixing things up. There are dogs who attack because of the way they were raised or treated. Back yard breeders and dog fight clubs for example. Dogs that are chained in the back, not neutered or spayed and not treated as membrrs of the family with food, shelyrr and love.

There are dogs who ate born with anxiety and fear. These are the dogs that try to keep the fearful thing away by barking and lunging. I know personally quite a few pure bred dogs who are like thi.

You just hate pit bull dogs and can't see that other dogs exhibit these behaviors too.

No, pit bulls attack because they were bred for violence. No one needs to make them that way as we can all tell by the beloved family pets who snap one day and eat grandma.

Lots of pit bulls are born with anxiety and fear because of decades of poor breeding. Pit bulls bark and lunge (and bite, you left that part out) because they were bred for violence. The desire to maim doesn’t just go away because Susie Petunia loves her pibble so much.

I can see that other dogs exhibit that behavior. I don’t see breed specific groups gaslighting TF out of people and telling us there’s nothing wrong with these dogs who were (and are) bred for violence. I don’t see Akita owners telling everyone that Akita’s are the bestest dogs for all families. I don’t see German Shepherd owners saying all families should have one. I just see pit bull owners telling everyone that there’s no problem here, no siree!

This is so false. Pit bull owners are not out there saying this is a good breed for everyone. I would prefer they stay out of hands of people who want to abuse them or use them in dog fights.

Pit bulls are just the current dogs we hate on. In the past it was dobermans, chows, German Shepherds.

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

DP but absolutely YES to the bolded when the problematic behavior is aggression that could easily lead to injury or death. You clearly have lost the plot somewhere along the way, so let me help you find it - they’re DOGS.

Yes in the extreme case but if my dog doesn't like strange dogs and I just avoid what's the problem?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

You comfortably put them to sleep. Poor things.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

This isn't every pit bull. Why aren't you putting blame on the owners for not correcting this?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

You are mixing things up. There are dogs who attack because of the way they were raised or treated. Back yard breeders and dog fight clubs for example. Dogs that are chained in the back, not neutered or spayed and not treated as membrrs of the family with food, shelyrr and love.

There are dogs who ate born with anxiety and fear. These are the dogs that try to keep the fearful thing away by barking and lunging. I know personally quite a few pure bred dogs who are like thi.

You just hate pit bull dogs and can't see that other dogs exhibit these behaviors too.

No, pit bulls attack because they were bred for violence. No one needs to make them that way as we can all tell by the beloved family pets who snap one day and eat grandma.

Lots of pit bulls are born with anxiety and fear because of decades of poor breeding. Pit bulls bark and lunge (and bite, you left that part out) because they were bred for violence. The desire to maim doesn’t just go away because Susie Petunia loves her pibble so much.

I can see that other dogs exhibit that behavior. I don’t see breed specific groups gaslighting TF out of people and telling us there’s nothing wrong with these dogs who were (and are) bred for violence. I don’t see Akita owners telling everyone that Akita’s are the bestest dogs for all families. I don’t see German Shepherd owners saying all families should have one. I just see pit bull owners telling everyone that there’s no problem here, no siree!

This is so false. Pit bull owners are not out there saying this is a good breed for everyone. I would prefer they stay out of hands of people who want to abuse them or use them in dog fights.

Pit bulls are just the current dogs we hate on. In the past it was dobermans, chows, German Shepherds.

Those weren't hate on dogs. They were dangerous dogs. Sheesh

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

You comfortably put them to sleep. Poor things.

agree
but those are not pit bulls, but some mutant xl bully thing or something else

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

You comfortably put them to sleep. Poor things.

agree
but those are not pit bulls, but some mutant xl bully thing or something else

Yes, those are pit bulls. “Xl bullies” are still pit bulls. Incredibly, horrifically inbred, but pit bulls just the same.

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Anonymous wrote:I was walking my dog the other day on the trolley trail and a couple with a Pit mix was walking the other way and the dog was snarling at mine, straining at the leash and snapping and they had to get off the trail. They seemed like perfectly nice people — I just can’t imagine why they would want to own such an animal. My dog is a lazy old golden and didn’t even look at their dog so did nothing to antagonize it. I was scared just walking but them as it seemed they barely had him under control.

np Do you not get that sometimes you have dogs that have anxiety? That you adopt a dog not knowing it's problems? Are you the type of person that gives back a dog because they aren't perfect? If the dog is afraid than it has nothing to do with you or your lazy golden. The dog will communicate that they want to be left alone by barking and lunging! And it works!! You go away right? So instead of feeling superior why not cut the "nice" people some slack and admire them for adopting a dog that has some challenges?

Most non-pit bull dogs with anxiety manifest it in better ways. It seems to be only pit bulls and pit bull mixes who are so “anxious” as to always be animal and human aggressive.

Wrong. All dogs bark and lunge who want to keep you away! This is the bread and butter for trainers. It just that pit bulls have a bad reputation.

I have had several dogs and not one of them has lunged at the leash to keep people away. My dogs have all liked people. If they don't want to interact with a person, they will just look in the opposite direction or wander off in a different direction. I really cannot imagine wanting to own/keep a dog that I can't walk down a trail without it going absolutely berserk at the end of a leash just because another dog is walking the opposite direction. The dog was legitimately scary and I have zero dog anxiety, having spent my whole life around big dogs. I get why a drug dealer would want a vicious dog like that. I do not get why families would be willing to keep a dog like that. I do not admire them for adopting a dog that has that kind of challenges and bringing them into a quiet family suburb where people walk along a quiet shaded trail with their dogs and children. The fact that people think this is "admirable" behavior is shocking to me. I have another neighbor that lives along a different neighborhood walking trail -- I was walking along it, and his dog came barking to the fence (which did not alarm me), but then the neighbor said "careful -- I never know when he's going to be vicious." He didn't seem like he was joking. Why on earth would you house an animal if you never knew when it was going to be vicious?

Dogs have been bred for centuries to be loyal and friendly and bring joy to humans. The idea that now humans should house canines that are not friendly or reliable around others is a fairly new idea, and I think a bad trend in the evolution of human-canine relations.

I don't know why I am responding because you have zero understanding of dog behavior or human responsibility. Good for you that your dogs don't have anxiety! Sometimes you adopt a dog and you don't know that they are going to develop problems but, they do! Perhaps you feel that all dogs that don't fit your idea of "what a dog should do" should be put down. But, I don't think that way. It is ok for dogs to have feelings and likes and dislikes. As long as the owners are aware and make sure no one gets harmed they have the right to live their lives.

Your don't have to admire people who adopt and keep challenging dogs but, I will continue to do so. It is easy to own a dog that has no problems but, I have learned so much from my dog and I wouldn't trade him for the world.

Why would anyone admire someone who keeps a dangerous dog and lies about it for self aggrandizement? Way to tell on yourself.

Totally normal dogs.

You comfortably put them to sleep. Poor things.

agree
but those are not pit bulls, but some mutant xl bully thing or something else

Yes, those are pit bulls. “Xl bullies” are still pit bulls. Incredibly, horrifically inbred, but pit bulls just the same.

Xl bullies are not pit bulls.

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FATALITY:
41 year old New York City man was mauled by his own pit bull in his apartment. https://abc7ny.com/police-officers-fatally-shot-a-pit-bull-mauling-his-owner-inside-bronx-apartment/14737414/

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CHILD ATTACKED:
9 year old Ottumwa, Iowa girl was attacked. Her injuries required an airlift to the University of Iowa Health Care.

“Officers said the child suffered severe injuries to her face, head, right arm, shoulder and hand.”

https://www.kyoutv.com/2024/05/03/9-year-old-severely-injured-pit-bull-attack-ottumwa-home/

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Anonymous wrote:CHILD ATTACKED:
9 year old Ottumwa, Iowa girl was attacked. Her injuries required an airlift to the University of Iowa Health Care.

“Officers said the child suffered severe injuries to her face, head, right arm, shoulder and hand.”

https://www.kyoutv.com/2024/05/03/9-year-old-severely-injured-pit-bull-attack-ottumwa-home/

How awful. The article says the man had raised the dog since a puppy and that the attacked child was known to the family and the dog. So sounds like another where a family dog just snapped and inflicted multiple serious wounds (not just a warning defensive bite). It continues to be so bizarre to me why anyone would take this risk when they are many lovely breeds that have never once tried to tear a nine year old limb from limb.