How much will Biden lose by?

[Anonymous]

Bigly.

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Anonymous wrote:The concern trolling on this thread is outstanding. The coordinated effort is greatly appreciated.

Seriously. It’s a few RWNJs having a “discussion” about all of Biden’s mistakes without going into all the issues with the other guy (the one who sounds more incoherent every day standing trial…).

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Anonymous wrote:In 2016 Trump won 304 to 227.

In 2024 Biden will also lose Minnesota. There 20% uncommitted vote in their primary. The outcome will be 289-240

https://classroommagazines.scholastic.com/election/interactives/race-to-270.html?D=WIWAVAVTRIORNYNMNJNHNVMAMDILHIGADECTCOCA&R=WYWVUTTXTNSDSCPAOKOHNDNCMTMOMSMNMILAKYKSIAINIDFLARAZAKAL&NE=R2R1R1D1&ME=D2D1R1

How can anyone vote for somebody who tried to overturn an election? Makes me sick to think how stupid people are. Congratulations American public, you're gonna love Project 2025. And troops on US streets. And Bannon, Kushner, Clark, and the Christian right.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't understand the whole argument that Biden's support of Israel will be his downfall? Under the Trump presidency the money and weapons sales continued unabated. It has been US policy for decades. Why do you think people will be upset at Biden for not cutting the strings but not mind that Trump didn't cut the strings? Seems like wishful thinking from RNC strategists to me.

Support of Israel won't be the downfall of Trump and Biden. It's the fact that neither of them have any business leading the most powerful country in the world until 2029. Not rocket science here, folks.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

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Is he talking about the same Qatar that has housed a US military air base since 1996? The one that's now the largest US military installation in the Middle East.

Come on people. This stuff is too dumb for you to use your precious brain cells on.

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The same Qatar that gave Jared Kushner a $2 billion bailout?

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Anonymous wrote:My guess is Trump will win 283-255.

Let’s hope so.

The country is headed in the wrong direction under Biden/Harris

People are very stressed and the no wars, low inflation, flush bank accounts, controlled border, low crime, safer cities, higher test scores, low gas prices, longer lifespans Trump presidency is looking very nostalgic.

Shhh. You’re ruining the Trump-is-Satan delusion that Dems use to comfort themselves as they cry themselves to sleep every night.

They can’t handle the fact that even with all his faults, Trump had the country in good shape, while the Hair-Sniffer-in-Chief f’s up everything he touches.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

NP. If you don’t understand that Genocide Joe is also a horror show, I have no words for you.

The Democrats who still blindly stand with Biden deserve, like Biden, to loose.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

NP. If you don’t understand that Genocide Joe is also a horror show, I have no words for you.

The Democrats who still blindly stand with Biden deserve, like Biden, to loose.

"to loose"? I think you meant he deserves to "lose". Yes, he does deserve to lose if he were going up against any normal presidential candidate but against Trump, ehhh.... we "lose" either way.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

Dp- they were planning to stomp their feet, take a dump on the quad, and whine on tik tok.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

NP. Be honest about how bad Biden is or expect many of to dismiss you as an unserious fool.

We have racism, genocide, and run of the mill police state fascism with Biden. You have yet to acknowledge that.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a Democratic pollster. Been analyzing polls for the DNC for 7 years now. TBH, we're all worried. Very worried. We know that our polls underreport Trump voters and independents who lean R. Biden's low approval numbers aren't budging and we have no f'ing clue why not. For a while, we thought it was a messaging problem but his numbers just aren't moving as we approach the general.

LOL. If only pollsters would read the polls that show the vast majority of Dems support a ceasefire as of two months ago, so probably higher now. They even broke out Jewish Dems and Muslim Dems and both by a far majority favor a ceasefire.

There was another poll that showed more than 60% of voters do not like the way Biden is handling the conflict.

But, sure carry on with the head scratching.

Everyone supports a ceasefire in the abstract. If you were to ask people do you support Hamas releasing the hostages, I'm pretty sure you'd find near universal agreement there too - except among many of the protesters.

The student protesters with their incoherent demands are a fringe. Yes, they have a real issue, but just like the protesters for Occupy Wall Street and BLM they are marginalizing the very issue they care about. Slogans like "Defund the police" and "From the river to the sea" make it impossible for the mainstream to support the progressive left. By election day, Gaza will be a non-issue for mainstream America. Nothing more than a little background noise.

If your head is buried, a roar sounds like background noise.

I find it interesting how progressives are effectively cheering for a Trump victory. Like being able to say "I told you so" for a day is totally worth four years of misery - not just for women, minorities, the poor, the young, the environment, health care, but for Palestinians in particular. I never thought I'd see the day when the left is cheering for the Jared Kushner solution to the Middle East, but here we are.

It’s people like you who are not listening, and taking people’s votes for granted. I despise minority rule, and have protested it every time the GOP has allowed it. Now, the Dems are doing the very same — at their own risk. If you think I’m cheering, you are sadly mistaken. This is 💯 on Biden and the Dems. If they truly cared about the US Biden would step down. It’s that simple.

Right now this is a race between two massive egos. Trump is one, but Biden is one too. He is only in it to beat Trump again.

There is zero reason the DNC needs to put up Biden. Zero.

Let me get this straight. The progressive solution to the problems in Gaza is for Biden to resign the presidency. And then everything will turn into rainbows and unicorns for the Palestinian people. It's that simple for the left.

Never mind that President Kamala Harris will lose to Trump in nearly all fifty states. The down ballot realities will ensure that Republicans keep the Senate and likely the House too, not to mention most of the competitive State houses. An aggressively right wing pro-Israel cohort of evangelicals and allies of Bezalel Smotrich, the head of the Religious Zionist party, will then dictate US policy toward Israel. And these right wing advisors, who enthusiastically support settlements in the West Bank and the expulsion of Palestinians from Gaza, are what progressives think will bring a just peace and happiness for the Palestinian people. And to this end progressives are willing to send women's rights into the dark ages, destroy the environment, and ensure millions of Americans become ensnared in poverty.

This is the progressive solution. And what all the student protestors are hoping will happen.

Correct?

If you think Biden is the only solution here, I have no words for you. There are lot of Dems who might handle things differently. Why are people so black and white in thinking? There are other solutions to the war than kill all Palestinians and roll over for terrorists. Lazy, lazy thinking.

You're right about Kamala. Biden effed her over when he put her on border policy. It was the dumbest move ever.

Again, 100% the fault of Biden and co.

If you don't understand that the choice in November is Biden or Trump, then I have no words for you.

If that inane response is all you have to what I expressed then we’re done here.

DP. They what is your solution that doesn’t involve a victory for Trump? Because that’s a non-starter.

Dp- they were planning to stomp their feet, take a dump on the quad, and whine on tik tok.

Unintentional reminder progress comes one funeral at a time.