When did this become the norm?

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Anonymous wrote:Even with all the inflation in housing/college/healthcare costs, the UMC is wealthier today than the UMC in the 80s-90s.


Really? I usually hear the opposite. Nowadays all I hear are people complaining about how much easier Boomers had it wrt housing, healthcare, education fees, etc.


They're wrong. Millenials are wealthier than Boomers were at their age.
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Anonymous wrote:Ahh yes you’re reminding me that back in the day you literally had to go somewhere outside of the house to buy your plane tickets. Does anyone else remember STA travel?

I also had to wait in line in person to buy concert tickets too!


I remember sending faxes to hotels in Europe to make reservations.
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Anonymous wrote:People aren't tied to a desk. People don't pay for air or hotel, they use points. It's easier to travel. People prioritize travel. International real estate is more obtainable.

We have a house in Europe. We spend 8 week in the summer there and 2-4 other weeks throughout the year there. We bought outside of town because we couldn't take anymore of the insta tourists.

You are not MC/UMC. Who the hell can take 10 weeks off per year? You are not relatable.


Did I say anything about taking time off from work?

DH works while we are there. He just needs to be near a phone throughout the day. And be able to get on a computer for an hour or so in the evenings.


That is not the reality of remote work for most people.


That is career dependent. DH isn’t “remote”. That’s how his job was even before Covid and remote work was popular.

So then you aren’t actually traveling. You have multiple residences.


We are traveling.
So if someone spends the summer or part of at their beach house they aren’t traveling.

Our house is in southern France we use it as a home base and travel all over Europe from there.

Yeah, so you’re rich, normal everyday Americans don’t own homes in Southern France, just fyi. People like you always have traveled and always have had the best of everything, good for you.


You are making a lot of assumptions. We paid less than $150k for the house. It is worth considerably more now because of work we have done, not contracted anything out. We purchased a modest house here to allow us to do this.
Real estate and daily COL are considerably less many parts of Europe.


Ha ha "my vacation home in France didn't cost $1 million" doesn't mean you aren't rich. If you own a second home, you are rich, almost by definition. Around 5% of American adults own second homes.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/228894/people-living-in-households-that-own-a-second-home-usa/


So if someone owns a $750k house in the DC area and a $150k house in France, by default that makes them wealthier than if someone owns a single $900k house in the DC area?
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Anonymous wrote:People aren't tied to a desk. People don't pay for air or hotel, they use points. It's easier to travel. People prioritize travel. International real estate is more obtainable.

We have a house in Europe. We spend 8 week in the summer there and 2-4 other weeks throughout the year there. We bought outside of town because we couldn't take anymore of the insta tourists.

You are not MC/UMC. Who the hell can take 10 weeks off per year? You are not relatable.


Did I say anything about taking time off from work?

DH works while we are there. He just needs to be near a phone throughout the day. And be able to get on a computer for an hour or so in the evenings.


That is not the reality of remote work for most people.


That is career dependent. DH isn’t “remote”. That’s how his job was even before Covid and remote work was popular.

So then you aren’t actually traveling. You have multiple residences.


We are traveling.
So if someone spends the summer or part of at their beach house they aren’t traveling.

Our house is in southern France we use it as a home base and travel all over Europe from there.

Yeah, so you’re rich, normal everyday Americans don’t own homes in Southern France, just fyi. People like you always have traveled and always have had the best of everything, good for you.


You are making a lot of assumptions. We paid less than $150k for the house. It is worth considerably more now because of work we have done, not contracted anything out. We purchased a modest house here to allow us to do this.
Real estate and daily COL are considerably less many parts of Europe.


Ha ha "my vacation home in France didn't cost $1 million" doesn't mean you aren't rich. If you own a second home, you are rich, almost by definition. Around 5% of American adults own second homes.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/228894/people-living-in-households-that-own-a-second-home-usa/


So if someone owns a $750k house in the DC area and a $150k house in France, by default that makes them wealthier than if someone owns a single $900k house in the DC area?

MC and UMC tend to lack money, time off and other resources needed to implement this. Also owning a second home is not traveling.
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"Maybe I’m fickle but once you’ve seen a National Park or two, you’ve seen them all."

I nominate this for the DCUM Stupidest Comment of the Month!
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There's an artist who made a series of each National Park and the ignorant comments about them made by visitors. "All I saw was a lake, mountains, and some trees" is the one she made for Grand Teton NP.
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Anonymous wrote:People are sheep, if I hear about one more person going to Portugal or Japan I am going to scream. A few years ago, it was the National Parks, it seemed like everyone was going to Yellowstone or Grand Tetons or whatever. The constant need to keep up with everyone else, going to the same vacation spots, same poses, same SM captions…Traveling loses its appeal when it becomes so common and predictable. It’s annoying waiting in lines and competing for photo ops. Too many damn people doing the same thing.


It is truly absurd the number of people going to Portugal lately. I suppose I am part of the problem as we travelled there for spring break a few years ago, but good grief. Oh, look, another picture of the pink street.
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Anonymous wrote:People are sheep, if I hear about one more person going to Portugal or Japan I am going to scream. A few years ago, it was the National Parks, it seemed like everyone was going to Yellowstone or Grand Tetons or whatever. The constant need to keep up with everyone else, going to the same vacation spots, same poses, same SM captions…Traveling loses its appeal when it becomes so common and predictable. It’s annoying waiting in lines and competing for photo ops. Too many damn people doing the same thing.


It is truly absurd the number of people going to Portugal lately. I suppose I am part of the problem as we travelled there for spring break a few years ago, but good grief. Oh, look, another picture of the pink street.


You are definitely part of the problem. You got yours and that was fine but now others are sheeple?
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I'm routinely surprised at how much travel everyone seems to do - and how much it costs! I travel a lot for work, including internationally, but I don't have enough miles to take a family of four on multiple plane trips and hotel stays every year. Ski trips out west, the Carribean at the holidays, and Europe plus a beach trip during the summer...I have to assume that there's a lot of inherited wealth in DC, because a lot of my friends/neighbors/colleagues are living on USG or nonprofit salaries. I'm occasionally jealous but honestly I also work super hard and the last thing I want to do is use all my time off on the road.
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Anonymous wrote:People are sheep, if I hear about one more person going to Portugal or Japan I am going to scream. A few years ago, it was the National Parks, it seemed like everyone was going to Yellowstone or Grand Tetons or whatever. The constant need to keep up with everyone else, going to the same vacation spots, same poses, same SM captions…Traveling loses its appeal when it becomes so common and predictable. It’s annoying waiting in lines and competing for photo ops. Too many damn people doing the same thing.


It is truly absurd the number of people going to Portugal lately. I suppose I am part of the problem as we travelled there for spring break a few years ago, but good grief. Oh, look, another picture of the pink street.


Huh. I feel Portugal was very six years ago.
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Anonymous wrote:We are making up lost time / travel that happened because of Covid. Doing as many trips as we can before the kids aren’t able to after college


This is exactly where I'm at too. Lost some really great travel years with the kids and trying to make up for it in the remaining time we have left to make plans for all of us.
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An unfortunate side effect of social media is a constant window into the conspicuous consumption of others. It's not a healthy thing to dwell on.
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Anonymous wrote:I love to travel and we have a lot of money. Goin to a second home at OBX sounds super boring.

We travel to National Parks, Italy, the Islands etc..


OBX is kind of boring. That's the appeal. My kids, who have done a fair amount of travel, love our trips to Hatteras. Beach, boogie board, fish, kayak, beach volleyball, walks on the beach, just hanging out at the beach house, grilling dinner. Sometimes simple's good.

We also like Italy and National Parks too.
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Anonymous wrote:I love to travel and we have a lot of money. Goin to a second home at OBX sounds super boring.

We travel to National Parks, Italy, the Islands etc..


OBX is kind of boring. That's the appeal. My kids, who have done a fair amount of travel, love our trips to Hatteras. Beach, boogie board, fish, kayak, beach volleyball, walks on the beach, just hanging out at the beach house, grilling dinner. Sometimes simple's good.

We also like Italy and National Parks too.


PP is a typical prole striver. Can’t afford a second home, so they own nothing and piss away their dough on rentals and hotels trying to appear worldly and sophisticated.
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Anonymous wrote:I love to travel and we have a lot of money. Goin to a second home at OBX sounds super boring.

We travel to National Parks, Italy, the Islands etc..


OBX is kind of boring. That's the appeal. My kids, who have done a fair amount of travel, love our trips to Hatteras. Beach, boogie board, fish, kayak, beach volleyball, walks on the beach, just hanging out at the beach house, grilling dinner. Sometimes simple's good.

We also like Italy and National Parks too.


PP is a typical prole striver. Can’t afford a second home, so they own nothing and piss away their dough on rentals and hotels trying to appear worldly and sophisticated.


PP, thanks for the comments. You’re only partially right. I’ve never claimed to be sophisticated or worldly. If sophistication is throwing jabs and name calling on DCUM, I guess I’m OK with being unsophisticated.
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