Why does Biden keep pushing free handouts for college?

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Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

Yes, buying votes is illegal. But what Biden is doing is not buying votes. Is that simple enough for you?

Its gonna be funny when he asks for voters to vote for him because he paid off their student debt during a campaign speech.

Still beating that dead horse, huh?
Every candidate tells segments of their constituency what they have done or will do for that constituency, whether it is farmers, small business, women concerned about reproductive healthcare, etc. Nothing wrong with that.

DP. So you say the same about Trump, amirite?

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Arts Institutes was a fraudulent for-profit university that literally made up and advertised fake data about the success of its graduates to lure in more students and keep the student loan mill churning.

Then sue the Arts Institutes for restitution. This administration is handing out free money hand over fist and it’s the TAXPAYERS who are footing the bill. Insane.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Because it’s popular and the right thing to do. I paid off over six figures in student loan debt myself. For years, the government made PLENTY of profits off me and my fellow borrowers for what are effectively non-dischargeable loans. The government should lift its people up, not bury them in lifelong debt servitude. Contrary to the assertions of the billionaires, real economic growth comes from lifting the bottom up, not scraps of hoarded wealth trickling down.

Great - so when will the government reimburse me for scrimping and saving to pay the tuition of my own kids? We’ll wait while you spin up some nonsensical response.

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Arts Institutes was a fraudulent for-profit university that literally made up and advertised fake data about the success of its graduates to lure in more students and keep the student loan mill churning.

Then, why are TAX PAYERS being forced to pay off the loans. Why not the people and groups that committed fraud?????

Exactly.

[Anonymous]

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Arts Institutes was a fraudulent for-profit university that literally made up and advertised fake data about the success of its graduates to lure in more students and keep the student loan mill churning.

Then sue the Arts Institutes for restitution. This administration is handing out free money hand over fist and it’s the TAXPAYERS who are footing the bill. Insane.
DP

Holding fraudulent entities accountable does make more sense but deficit spending is much easier.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do I keep seeing six-figures of student debts discharged from multi-degree professional class persons making six-figure salaries?

That is truly horrible optics.

Aren't there millions of legitimately still poor Americans -- largely minorities and poor white people -- with delinquent federal loans who never finished college? Discharge those.

Because they did 10 years of public service at a non-profit or government employer. Which is exactly according to the terms of student loan law signed by President GW Bush and passed on bipartisan basis in Congress.

Do you want Biden to disregard the law that covers public service loan forgivenss?

Well, that’s just not true.

The Education Department will automatically erase loans for 317,000 people who attended any Art Institute campus between Jan. 1, 2004 and Oct. 16, 2017.

So the later group couldn’t possibly have done 10 years of public service anywhere. Biden is simply wiping their slate clean, at the expense of everyone else.
DP

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Anonymous wrote:Why do I keep seeing six-figures of student debts discharged from multi-degree professional class persons making six-figure salaries?

That is truly horrible optics.

Aren't there millions of legitimately still poor Americans -- largely minorities and poor white people -- with delinquent federal loans who never finished college? Discharge those.

Because they did 10 years of public service at a non-profit or government employer. Which is exactly according to the terms of student loan law signed by President GW Bush and passed on bipartisan basis in Congress.

Do you want Biden to disregard the law that covers public service loan forgivenss?

Well, that’s just not true.

The Education Department will automatically erase loans for 317,000 people who attended any Art Institute campus between Jan. 1, 2004 and Oct. 16, 2017.

So the later group couldn’t possibly have done 10 years of public service anywhere. Biden is simply wiping their slate clean, at the expense of everyone else.
DP

Thank you, pp. The Biden fangirls here put out information, say it is fact, when in reality it is crap they are making up as they go along.

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Anonymous wrote:Why do I keep seeing six-figures of student debts discharged from multi-degree professional class persons making six-figure salaries?

That is truly horrible optics.

Aren't there millions of legitimately still poor Americans -- largely minorities and poor white people -- with delinquent federal loans who never finished college? Discharge those.

Because they did 10 years of public service at a non-profit or government employer. Which is exactly according to the terms of student loan law signed by President GW Bush and passed on bipartisan basis in Congress.

Do you want Biden to disregard the law that covers public service loan forgivenss?

Well, that’s just not true.

The Education Department will automatically erase loans for 317,000 people who attended any Art Institute campus between Jan. 1, 2004 and Oct. 16, 2017.

So the later group couldn’t possibly have done 10 years of public service anywhere. Biden is simply wiping their slate clean, at the expense of everyone else.
DP

Thank you, pp. The Biden fangirls here put out information, say it is fact, when in reality it is crap they are making up as they go along.

Exactly. Shame on them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Arts Institutes was a fraudulent for-profit university that literally made up and advertised fake data about the success of its graduates to lure in more students and keep the student loan mill churning.

Then sue the Arts Institutes for restitution. This administration is handing out free money hand over fist and it’s the TAXPAYERS who are footing the bill. Insane.
DP

I like Biden, don't get me wrong. I think his heart is in the right place. But forgiving student loans from a fraudulent art institute instead of suing the institute for fraud?

I mean, the Biden Administration is suing Sheetz because they won't hire convicted felons. What could go wrong, having convicted felons manning 24-hour gasoline and convenience stores in rural areas. Those felons will be setting up skimming stations and eyeing the women who arrive alone. They'll be stealing the gasoline and replacing it with water once the mob gets involved. Sheetz are all over our area - VA, MD, PA, DE, WV. We the customers will be directly and adversely affected.

Do I have it right - instead of going after the corporations and individuals (ahem, hello Trump) churning out graduates from the fraudulent schools, they're forgiving the loans? Once again, we the people are left holding the bag.

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Good for Biden for doing this. I'd rather the federal giveaways for young people struggling to make their future than the people Trump helped--billionaire right winger tax evaders and slumlords.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Arts Institutes was a fraudulent for-profit university that literally made up and advertised fake data about the success of its graduates to lure in more students and keep the student loan mill churning.

Then sue the Arts Institutes for restitution. This administration is handing out free money hand over fist and it’s the TAXPAYERS who are footing the bill. Insane.
DP

I like Biden, don't get me wrong. I think his heart is in the right place. But forgiving student loans from a fraudulent art institute instead of suing the institute for fraud?

I mean, the Biden Administration is suing Sheetz because they won't hire convicted felons. What could go wrong, having convicted felons manning 24-hour gasoline and convenience stores in rural areas. Those felons will be setting up skimming stations and eyeing the women who arrive alone. They'll be stealing the gasoline and replacing it with water once the mob gets involved. Sheetz are all over our area - VA, MD, PA, DE, WV. We the customers will be directly and adversely affected.

Do I have it right - instead of going after the corporations and individuals (ahem, hello Trump) churning out graduates from the fraudulent schools, they're forgiving the loans? Once again, we the people are left holding the bag.

The DOJ sued one big scam university for $67 million. There are probably more.

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I’m glad that my tax dollars are used to pay off the loans of privileged students at Ivy League schools who cosplay as Palestinian refugees.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that my tax dollars are used to pay off the loans of privileged students at Ivy League schools who cosplay as Palestinian refugees.

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Another political loser in an election year that’s highly inflationary. Paying peoples loans frees up more printed dollars sloshing around to buy the scarce produce.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m glad that my tax dollars are used to pay off the loans of privileged students at Ivy League schools who cosplay as Palestinian refugees.

Funny but incorrect. The loan relief went to older Americans who made 250 payments on time. Or it went to the people who got suckered into thinking Trump University was a legit school.