Just found the GBRS

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our base school has a center, I am not sure that they offer level 3, at least not from what I can tell. None of the non center kids are pushed into aap. Aap is aap, only, at our school.

This is the real problem, the inconsistency within the program. Our base school is also a center, and they offer differentiated reading and compacted math (which works one year ahead) as level III. The very advanced kids can work ahead more than one year ahead in math with the next grade aap classes, but this is rare. If we didn't have these services I would've taken more steps to try for level IV.

ITA. There is inconsistency from school to school.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What? The other threads are saying 9 is average, 12 is good. Source please? Thanks.

12 is average for kids in pool that are ultimately found Center eligible. Source is Carol Horn.

Is this published somewhere, or did you somehow get the word from the horse's mouth (no offense to Dr. Horn)?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What? The other threads are saying 9 is average, 12 is good. Source please? Thanks.

12 is average for kids in pool that are ultimately found Center eligible. Source is Carol Horn.

Is this published somewhere, or did you somehow get the word from the horse's mouth (no offense to Dr. Horn)?

She has stated it at AAPAC meetings. I believe she has also presented it before the School Board.

[Anonymous]

it was published a vew years ago in a report on aap. As were the averge scores. (Average scores are not has high as you would think, but the gbrs was)

[Anonymous]

I remember that report was being tossed around in a thread two years ago. You are correct. The average GBRS was 12 and the average CogAT was actually below the cutoff, as I recall, like 128 or something. That ended up matching the unofficial WISC "cut off" on appeal, which according to a long thread compiled that year, fell right around 126 for kids whose GBRS was around 12. It ended up looking like a sliding scale; a WISC score above 130 or so could overcome as GBRS as low as 8 or 9; a GBRS of 11 or above could overcome a WISC score as low as 126. But I don't recall anyone getting in that year (at least based on the informal results of the thread, which was about 20 appealers) with a WISC score lower than 126. Again, that was an appeal thread and no one knows how the committee is going to come down on the FxAT (whether 92 and above is good enough with a GBRS of 12).

[Anonymous]

Scores: GBRS = 14, NNAT = 98%, FFX Abilities Test = 82% -
Do you think my child will get in without appeal?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Scores: GBRS = 14, NNAT = 98%, FFX Abilities Test = 82% -
Do you think my child will get in without appeal?

I'm not the expert to ask for an opinion, but I'm guessing that someone will want to know the FAT subscores.

[Anonymous]

Verbal was 70, quantitative and nonverbal 83

[Anonymous]

Parents weren't given the subset scores for 2nd graders. Only the vqn was given in the screen shot/ FxAT letter.

[Anonymous]

I think GBRS of 14 plus is a shoe in for aap. NNAT of 98 is excellent.99% your kid will be in aap.

[Anonymous]

I am the nonexpert again. Does your child have a late birthday by any chance? If so perhaps that the committee will take that into account as pulling down the non-age-adjusted FAT. Or is there any special circumstance like not speaking English at home? The GBRS is certainly great. If 16% of children are being accepted I wouldn't see why that wouldn't be your child. But if only 10% or 7% not sure. At worst may have to take WISC on appeal? How did I do, those with more knowledge?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Parents weren't given the subset scores for 2nd graders. Only the vqn was given in the screen shot/ FxAT letter.

We did get the subtest scores, percentiles only but not the raw scores.

[Anonymous]

OP, as long as you have 1 high test score and high GBRS your kid should be in. No need to WISC unless on appeal.

Kids with high test scores and low GBRS have more difficulty getting in.

[Anonymous]

Yes, he is a beginning September birthday - so hopefully they will see that in terms of his FxAT score.

[Anonymous]

Does anyone know when in May the decisions are mailed- beginning, mid or late May? And what about when the appeal is due- is that also May or is that June? Thanks.