boycotting SOL movement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP, once you put together your movement, do post a site here. I hate SOLs with a passion. I hate that teachers are forced to spend the entire 4th quarter teaching FOR the SOLs. My DS is in HS. There hasn't been any new material in his Math or Science classes since the beginning of April.

What grade is your little darling in? Because they don’t take them after 9th grade…if they pass. No SOLs= no accountability. It’s one test, and they review content and reteach any areas necessary for “the entire 4th quarter” which has been 4 weeks at this point. The math SOL is on Wednesday. Seems awfully useful preparation for little things like ACTs, SATs, AP test, or college exams. No one is complaining that my DS’s AP teacher finished all the content by the end of the 3rd quarter and is doing AP test prep until the test in a few weeks. School is building blocks. They are learning to take an end year test. That’s a valuable skill. If you disagree you can opt out- until high school- at which point you might wish your child knew how to take an end of year test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:how popular is the boycotting SOL Movement at your school? Just not sure how we can start this movement when parents think the kids should take the SOL. They need to understand that if looks bad on FCPS if they don't take the test, and only they don't need them.

OP, you are an idiot. You cannot compose a coherent sentence.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

I don't care for the board and my kids are only in elementary so the SOLs are a pretty non-issue in our house, but I'm 100% with you on the bolded. Not only would it hurt some kids (like those who might be eligible for advanced math based on a pass advanced), but it won't gain a single board seat in a million years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:SOLs are so ridiculously easy. They are for the lowest common denominator. If a kid can’t pass them they need help.

Posters regurgitate this without knowing what they are talking about. The SOLs aren't easy. Every few years, VDOE adjusts the difficulty up or down and we're in an up period.

My kids admittedly were bpth National Merit Semi-Finalists (one a Finalist) and frankly the SOL's were easy for them. i don't think we gave them a moments notice.

Please have them explain to you how your comment is useless.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

I don't care for the board and my kids are only in elementary so the SOLs are a pretty non-issue in our house, but I'm 100% with you on the bolded. Not only would it hurt some kids (like those who might be eligible for advanced math based on a pass advanced), but it won't gain a single board seat in a million years.

DP. Fwiw, the opt-out movement only really applies to elementary school. After that, students take them since they are required for graduation. So you are currently in peak optional-SOL time. (It isn't something that has really caught hold, here. No one opts out of the SOLs in grade school around here.)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why would we want to boycott the SOL?

Main reason - the state shouldn't be testing students to see what they know and what they don't know. second we need FCPS to have test score to keep dropping because it will mean we will have a chance of winning school board seats, and we will have a say on the Superintendent .

The people I knew who were part of OpenFCPS back in the day absolutely valued the state testing students to see what they know and don't know in order to show the gaps in what FCPS was or wasn't teaching. Are you a troll?

True. The people I know who can’t stand the board point to evidence of decreased learning as one of their reasons.

You need some sort of measurement for that.

Yes and since they can't demonstrate that via the actual standardized tests, they are trying to manufacture the appearance of decline by getting parents to opt out.

I hate the way schools prep for SOLs and would consider opting out for student anxiety reasons, but trying to gain board seats by encouraging families to opt out of the test is silly.

I don't care for the board and my kids are only in elementary so the SOLs are a pretty non-issue in our house, but I'm 100% with you on the bolded. Not only would it hurt some kids (like those who might be eligible for advanced math based on a pass advanced), but it won't gain a single board seat in a million years.

DP. Fwiw, the opt-out movement only really applies to elementary school. After that, students take them since they are required for graduation. So you are currently in peak optional-SOL time. (It isn't something that has really caught hold, here. No one opts out of the SOLs in grade school around here.)

PP here. I don't see the point of opting out of the SOLs.

[Anonymous]

Why would you do this. The tests are not perfect, but they provide a standardized benchmark that enables accountability for student learning outcomes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Every State has standardized tests to. "measure" learning. If you do not want your kid to take them, you can opt out.

+2

Op - do you have a better way or mote efficient idea on how to conduct a standardized benchmark or how to guage learning...across 95 counties.

I'll wait.

[Anonymous]

This was a thread a week or so ago and best reply was person who pointed out- don’t take SOL or purposefully fail and risk losing accreditation- doesn’t hurt FCPS, just your own housing price.

[Anonymous]

Good way to get your school defunded

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Good way to get your school defunded

It doesn't work like that anymore. They repealed NCLB years ago and the replacement increases funding for failing schools, not decreases it. It will tank your housing price though, as PP notes.

[Anonymous]

There’s no movement

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:SOLs are so ridiculously easy. They are for the lowest common denominator. If a kid can’t pass them they need help.

Posters regurgitate this without knowing what they are talking about. The SOLs aren't easy. Every few years, VDOE adjusts the difficulty up or down and we're in an up period.

Yea they are. That’s why most kids can pass them.

Well, yes. They are supposed to measure that kids have learned what they are supposed to learn in the school year. And most kids do. That's good. It doesn't necessarily mean the test is easy - it means the test is accurate.

I don’t think an 80-85% pass rate of a test where you need to get 60% of the questions correct to pass means that the test is “too easy”.