ACLU sues Jackson-Reed

[Anonymous]

This the same school that indefinitely postponed readings of Maus and Night earlier this year. Is the JSU sewing too? Why don’t the groups get together and do a collective old fashioned sit in? Seems like a better use of resources. Where are the adults? Oh wait, the ACLU.

https://thejackson-reedbeacon.com/21675/news/students-teachers-struggle-to-discuss-israel-hamas-war/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/19/schools-speech-israel-gaza-protest/

[Anonymous]

*suing, not sewing. Autocorrect. Before someone gets snarky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This the same school that indefinitely postponed readings of Maus and Night earlier this year. Is the JSU sewing too? Why don’t the groups get together and do a collective old fashioned sit in? Seems like a better use of resources. Where are the adults? Oh wait, the ACLU.

https://thejackson-reedbeacon.com/21675/news/students-teachers-struggle-to-discuss-israel-hamas-war/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/19/schools-speech-israel-gaza-protest/

i was wondering that too …

[Anonymous]

The common thread for JR is that they don't want the negative publicity they expect to get if students (or maybe teachers?) have the opportunity to share their beliefs about this topic.

[Anonymous]

My understanding is that the students didn’t follow the proper procedures to get the film approved- they just put fliers up so that’s why the event was canceled.

It’s also my understanding that student clubs cannot do whatever they want- for example, a student couldn’t start a J-R White Supremecist Club. There are limits to free speech if students when it in a school-affiliated group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This the same school that indefinitely postponed readings of Maus and Night earlier this year. Is the JSU sewing too? Why don’t the groups get together and do a collective old fashioned sit in? Seems like a better use of resources. Where are the adults? Oh wait, the ACLU.

https://thejackson-reedbeacon.com/21675/news/students-teachers-struggle-to-discuss-israel-hamas-war/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/19/schools-speech-israel-gaza-protest/

"Five teachers met with Assistant Principal Marc Minsker, who oversees the English department, to discuss the delay of reading 'Night and Maus.' Minsker said that teachers were struggling with how to teach 'because [the conflict is] a sensitive topic right now.'

The department decided to postpone reading the books until tensions decreased."

Wow. I thought people were exaggerating.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That would be highly inappropriate to distribute hateful or religious information. The school is right. How can the ACLU support that?

I mean, the ACLU helped the KKK win the right to march. That's what they do.

https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/4156_ri_1978.pdf

That's what the ACLU was years ago. It has abandoned its strong defense of free speech and now advocates for speech it likes and policing speech it does not like. About 20 years ago key leaders split off from the ACLU to create the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) which is an awesome organization akin to what the ACLU once was.

https://www.thefire.org

[Anonymous]

Bad (and costly) look for JR.

[Anonymous]

To the PP-FIRE are right-wing nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That would be highly inappropriate to distribute hateful or religious information. The school is right. How can the ACLU support that?

I mean, the ACLU helped the KKK win the right to march. That's what they do.

https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/4156_ri_1978.pdf

That's what the ACLU was years ago. It has abandoned its strong defense of free speech and now advocates for speech it likes and policing speech it does not like. About 20 years ago key leaders split off from the ACLU to create the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) which is an awesome organization akin to what the ACLU once was.

https://www.thefire.org

yeah. that’s why their sudden advocacy of 1A to show an anti-israel movie (while Maus is apparently still banned) is highly suspect.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This the same school that indefinitely postponed readings of Maus and Night earlier this year. Is the JSU sewing too? Why don’t the groups get together and do a collective old fashioned sit in? Seems like a better use of resources. Where are the adults? Oh wait, the ACLU.

https://thejackson-reedbeacon.com/21675/news/students-teachers-struggle-to-discuss-israel-hamas-war/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/19/schools-speech-israel-gaza-protest/

"Five teachers met with Assistant Principal Marc Minsker, who oversees the English department, to discuss the delay of reading 'Night and Maus.' Minsker said that teachers were struggling with how to teach 'because [the conflict is] a sensitive topic right now.'

The department decided to postpone reading the books until tensions decreased."

Wow. I thought people were exaggerating.

Both were taught last month. My kid read Night.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:That would be highly inappropriate to distribute hateful or religious information. The school is right. How can the ACLU support that?

I mean, the ACLU helped the KKK win the right to march. That's what they do.

https://www.aclu.org/wp-content/uploads/legal-documents/4156_ri_1978.pdf

That's what the ACLU was years ago. It has abandoned its strong defense of free speech and now advocates for speech it likes and policing speech it does not like. About 20 years ago key leaders split off from the ACLU to create the Foundation for Individual Rights and Expression (FIRE) which is an awesome organization akin to what the ACLU once was.

https://www.thefire.org

yeah. that’s why their sudden advocacy of 1A to show an anti-israel movie (while Maus is apparently still banned) is highly suspect.

Maus was never banned. Students read it last month.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This the same school that indefinitely postponed readings of Maus and Night earlier this year. Is the JSU sewing too? Why don’t the groups get together and do a collective old fashioned sit in? Seems like a better use of resources. Where are the adults? Oh wait, the ACLU.

https://thejackson-reedbeacon.com/21675/news/students-teachers-struggle-to-discuss-israel-hamas-war/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/12/19/schools-speech-israel-gaza-protest/

"Five teachers met with Assistant Principal Marc Minsker, who oversees the English department, to discuss the delay of reading 'Night and Maus.' Minsker said that teachers were struggling with how to teach 'because [the conflict is] a sensitive topic right now.'

The department decided to postpone reading the books until tensions decreased."

Wow. I thought people were exaggerating.

Both were taught last month. My kid read Night.

Oh good, thanks for the update. Thats a relief.

[Anonymous]

Would ACLU sue if the school banned Gone with the Wind? Why or why not?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Wow! I’m impressed with the students for not giving up

Why would they? It'll make a very persuasive essay for elite college admissions. Although maybe less so now than it would have a week ago.

Maybe the students actually care about issues. Such a gross DCUM comment. Most of the kids standing up are seniors who know where they are going to school at this point.

I'm not saying they don't also believe it. It's nonetheless a resume building activity for a whole set of colleges and elite institutions, a fact which I have trouble believing you're ignorant of.

Colleges are in the process of suppressing pro-Palestinian speech and people are losing their jobs for supporting Palestinians (or having job offers revoked). So I am not sure why you immediately assume that this lawsuit will be a good thing on their resumes.

Don't break the law and keep your explicitly genocidal views to yourself and it's still a net positive. Maybe that'll change, and then I suppose we can see how many students were actually committed to this.

Or just express the correct genocidal views and you'll be embraced by the right and conservative democrats