Are tryouts real, or has the team already been formed?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I've absolutely seen a travel baseball team with several dad and coach friends schedule a tryout , but keep many of their less athletic sons on "their" team.

Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol

Right?

Often the dad coaches already have a group of kids/families that want to play together and are are having tryouts just to fill out the rest of the roster. Pretty much the most common way to start a travel team at the younger ages

Not a fan of those types of teams for my kids, but they are the most common ones.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've absolutely seen a travel baseball team with several dad and coach friends schedule a tryout , but keep many of their less athletic sons on "their" team.

Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol

The point is the team does not represent the most talented players and nepotism reins.

Its not really nepotism if the guy is the coach and his kid is on the team. Now does he need 5 assistant coaches? Hell no, and you avoid those teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've absolutely seen a travel baseball team with several dad and coach friends schedule a tryout , but keep many of their less athletic sons on "their" team.

Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol

The point is the team does not represent the most talented players and nepotism reins.

Its not really nepotism if the guy is the coach and his kid is on the team. Now does he need 5 assistant coaches? Hell no, and you avoid those teams.

The worst teams are the ones with a dad coach plus 5 assistant dad coaches. No one but the coaches' kids get opportunities to play on special teams, take a faceoff, etc. Avoid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've absolutely seen a travel baseball team with several dad and coach friends schedule a tryout , but keep many of their less athletic sons on "their" team.

Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol

The point is the team does not represent the most talented players and nepotism reins.

Its not really nepotism if the guy is the coach and his kid is on the team. Now does he need 5 assistant coaches? Hell no, and you avoid those teams.

The worst teams are the ones with a dad coach plus 5 assistant dad coaches. No one but the coaches' kids get opportunities to play on special teams, take a faceoff, etc. Avoid.

+1

very true

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've absolutely seen a travel baseball team with several dad and coach friends schedule a tryout , but keep many of their less athletic sons on "their" team.

Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol

The point is the team does not represent the most talented players and nepotism reins.

Its not really nepotism if the guy is the coach and his kid is on the team. Now does he need 5 assistant coaches? Hell no, and you avoid those teams.

Yeah, the 4-5 or five assistant coaches (all dads) is a HUGE red flag.

But also, by age 11 or 12, you can be on the lookout for teams with coaches that do not have kids.

My kids are 14 and 12 and both are on teams where the coach does not have a child on the team. Tryouts were competitive for sure, but its 100% fair. You earn your spot at SS; you earn that clean-up spot in the line-up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sorry- that stinks.

For most tryouts (for all but the youngest players)- I assume the tryout is basically a formality. Most players are at some point a known quantity (or easy to research ahead of time) and the roster is mostly already penciled in. The tryout itself is really just to decide maaaybe the last few spots. This has always been my assumption anyway.

This has been my experience with two kids in different sports. The teams are mostly formed before tryouts and tryouts are a formality. Coaches that aren’t parents know the kids through various clinics, camps, former seasons or straight up recruited them. It’s hard to impossible to make a team at tryouts if you haven’t had experience playing in front of the coaches before.

[Anonymous]

I’ve had different kids try out for a bunch of different sports and the tryouts are definitely a formality. The worst have been baseball and sometimes they didn’t even hide it. At one tryout (where the team only had 4 returners), each boy was supposed to have 7 swings. But, the number they actually got depended on the kid. For example, one kid (not a coach’s kid) swung and missed at a few, weak grounders on a few more, then on pitch 10 laced one. The coach “grading” the players got all excited, shouted some “atta boys” and said he was done. My son had solid hits on all 7 with no misses and no excitement from the coach. I knew from that who was making the team and who wasn’t.

Even if they say it’s an “open tryout” be very skeptical. It’s usually not the case.

[Anonymous]

Basketball teams are the worst for this IMO because the rosters are so small. A coach and assistant coach kids take 20% of the roster by themselves. Unless your kid is 8 feet tall or a super star.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Basketball teams are the worst for this IMO because the rosters are so small. A coach and assistant coach kids take 20% of the roster by themselves. Unless your kid is 8 feet tall or a super star.

Most AAU basketball teams aren't parent coached so there is that.... but the social politics are real.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basketball teams are the worst for this IMO because the rosters are so small. A coach and assistant coach kids take 20% of the roster by themselves. Unless your kid is 8 feet tall or a super star.

Most AAU basketball teams aren't parent coached so there is that.... but the social politics are real.

This is not accurate. The majority ARE parent coached. Especially the better teams.

[Anonymous]

If he doesn't get it on team because they don't pick the best kids, then it's not the best team. Go play for a competitive team, and let this team be inclusive for the kids who want to have fun but aren't sports stars. Culture fit.

If there are enough teams for all the kids to play and start a new team. Don't complain about the people actually putting in the work.

[Anonymous]

If there aren't enough, that is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basketball teams are the worst for this IMO because the rosters are so small. A coach and assistant coach kids take 20% of the roster by themselves. Unless your kid is 8 feet tall or a super star.

Most AAU basketball teams aren't parent coached so there is that.... but the social politics are real.

This is not accurate. The majority ARE parent coached. Especially the better teams.

Not accurate. Which ones are parent coached?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basketball teams are the worst for this IMO because the rosters are so small. A coach and assistant coach kids take 20% of the roster by themselves. Unless your kid is 8 feet tall or a super star.

Most AAU basketball teams aren't parent coached so there is that.... but the social politics are real.

This is not accurate. The majority ARE parent coached. Especially the better teams.

Not accurate. Which ones are parent coached?

How many do you want me to name? A lot of Nova 94, CYA, BRYC, Nova Cavaliers, Family over Fame, VA Elite, etc. All majority parent coaches with some outliers.

[Anonymous]

So, which Teams are not parent-coached? Im interested