TJ waitlist chances

[Anonymous]

I am pretty sure there are kids who meet the criteria and apply for TJ. They think more seriously about going or not if they are accepted. I would guess that many of the kids in Algebra 1 who get the offer find them selves really thinking if TJ is a good fit for them based on what they know about TJ. I would guess that many from schools like Carson and Rocky Run and the like are surprised that they received an offer. It will be interesting to see how many accept the offer.

I also don't think it is a bad thing that TJ has students who are not massively accelerated because I think it gives kids who are just discovering STEM a chance to attend.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

Instead of yapping all over the places, you should just answer OP questions.

OP, I asked my kid yesterday if he heard about the waitlisted friends get offer, he said no he hadn’t hear any. Good luck OP!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

What has this once advanced school come to be. Now being transformed into a remedial camp for kids whose base schools remain neglected?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

What has this once advanced school come to be. Now being transformed into a remedial camp for kids whose base schools remain neglected?

Do you mean that you believed any of that nonsense? lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think the message Algebra 1 students who decline TJ are sending is just that they decided not to attend TJ.

Bottom-tier middle school students are being coerced and incentivized with extra credit to submit TJ application, just to artificially inflate the application numbers somewhat and use them to justify the couple of hundred Algebra 1 offers. However, the acceptance rate for the algebra 1 offers is significantly low compared to offers extended to students with higher math who apply from top middle schools.

Admissions are being balanced racially by using lower math of Algebra 1 as the criterion. Ever since the admissions change, FCPS is not revealing the number of applicants by middle school or by ethnic race, which was historically presented as basic information in initial news release.

[Anonymous]

Gpa average is 3.95 how is it a bottom tier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Gpa average is 3.95 how is it a bottom tier?

Grades are overly inflated now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

Instead of yapping all over the places, you should just answer OP questions.

OP, I asked my kid yesterday if he heard about the waitlisted friends get offer, he said no he hadn’t hear any. Good luck OP!

I think the first round of offers will come out sometime this week.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

FCPS is also inconsistent in the policy to offer the students in the wait pool. On the application website, they say

"Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first."

But in the news letter on the decision page, they say

"The Wait Pool is made up of applicants from the freshman application round who met the minimum holistic review standards and didn’t receive an offer. Since it is a wait pool, there is no ranked order to students in the wait pool since there are multiple factors for each placement"

Honestly, I don't even know if they rank students in the main admissions process at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

FCPS is also inconsistent in the policy to offer the students in the wait pool. On the application website, they say

"Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first."

But in the news letter on the decision page, they say

"The Wait Pool is made up of applicants from the freshman application round who met the minimum holistic review standards and didn’t receive an offer. Since it is a wait pool, there is no ranked order to students in the wait pool since there are multiple factors for each placement"

Honestly, I don't even know if they rank students in the main admissions process at all.

I'd interpret this to be factoring in that they first try to fill the MS allotments so if a kid is ranked like 50 on the overall list but 2 on the wait list for his MS and 2 kids at that MS decline to attend, then he gets an offer right away. But if all the kids at his MS that were offered attendance accept then his slot on the list is #50. It's two different queues that interact with each other.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

FCPS is also inconsistent in the policy to offer the students in the wait pool. On the application website, they say

"Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first."

But in the news letter on the decision page, they say

"The Wait Pool is made up of applicants from the freshman application round who met the minimum holistic review standards and didn’t receive an offer. Since it is a wait pool, there is no ranked order to students in the wait pool since there are multiple factors for each placement"

Honestly, I don't even know if they rank students in the main admissions process at all.

I'd interpret this to be factoring in that they first try to fill the MS allotments so if a kid is ranked like 50 on the overall list but 2 on the wait list for his MS and 2 kids at that MS decline to attend, then he gets an offer right away. But if all the kids at his MS that were offered attendance accept then his slot on the list is #50. It's two different queues that interact with each other.

They said that they would fill the allocated seats first then the unallocated seats. I hope, like you said, they rank students in each queue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

FCPS is also inconsistent in the policy to offer the students in the wait pool. On the application website, they say

"Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first."

But in the news letter on the decision page, they say

"The Wait Pool is made up of applicants from the freshman application round who met the minimum holistic review standards and didn’t receive an offer. Since it is a wait pool, there is no ranked order to students in the wait pool since there are multiple factors for each placement"

Honestly, I don't even know if they rank students in the main admissions process at all.

It's a process of iterative racial balancing. Initially, abundant offers in hundreds are extended to Algebra 1 applicants, anticipating a low yield of acceptances.
With a significant number of declines, the offers would get redirected to higher-ranked applicants, often from top schools. However, allowing that would disrupt the predetermined diversity chart. Therefore, the waitlist ranking is adjusted until there is certainty that the desired racial composition will be achieved.

wouldnt the waitlist full of Asians counter the racial balancing effort anway?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When they offer waitlisted students, will the academic performance matter or are the same experience/diversity factors still applied?

Entire waitlist of 1000+ applicants is already ranked. As ironic as it is, FCPS has figured out diversity chart can be manipulated quickly if students with lower level of Algebra 1 math from low performing schools are admitted, since the old merit based admissions favored the well managed top middle school students with higher level of Geometry or Algebra 2 math. So, instead of the previous 20+ offers to algebra 1 students, now well over 160+ offers go to lower level math students. As wishful as school board's political desire maybe, fortunately not all algebra 1 students are naive to take the bait and risk struggling with poor grades at TJ, so many politely decline the offer. These significant number of declined offers return to the unallocated pool, and the competitive already ranked high math students from the waitlist are extended the offers.

Essentially, the message conveyed by Algebra 1 students declining their TJ offer to the school board is this: You're mistaken if you believe you can fulfill your diversity chart at the cost of our suffering at TJ. Prioritize fixing our middle schools so that we can learn higher-level math required for success at TJ, and then we'll consider accepting the TJ offer.

😔 sad

Don't be sad. That poster is a troll. That post is all nonsense.

FCPS is also inconsistent in the policy to offer the students in the wait pool. On the application website, they say

"Offers of admissions to students who have accepted to stay in the waitpool will be provided to the highest evaluated students remaining in the waitpool. Waitpool offers will continue to be made until all seats have been filled or until the beginning of the school year, which occurs first."

But in the news letter on the decision page, they say

"The Wait Pool is made up of applicants from the freshman application round who met the minimum holistic review standards and didn’t receive an offer. Since it is a wait pool, there is no ranked order to students in the wait pool since there are multiple factors for each placement"

Honestly, I don't even know if they rank students in the main admissions process at all.

This means they have multiple wait pools - not a single wait pool. Depending on which pool or pools you are in, your chances are different. You may rank 1st in the Pool A, but nobody declines offer there, then you have no offer. You may rank 10th in Pool B, but 11 students decline offer, then you are in. How many pools do they have and how they make the pools, nobody knows. They cannot say that we have a pool for bottom students (or based on whatever nonsense criteria) that only send out offer to bottom students. That's why you see "there are multiple factors for each placement"