Florida approves ‘Classic Learning Test’ for college admissions

[Anonymous]

As someone who has worked in the field of standardized testing, I'd be curious as to how this test is constructed, and how questions are road tested, how they account for issues like bias, etc. Any national or international standardized test has to meet all sorts of metrics and questions are tested heavily before they are used. I doubt that the association of Christian schools has an institutionalized set of standards and procedures similar to those that a group like ETS would have. People who write standardized test questions often get paid several thousand dollars for writing one passage with questions and answers, and many of those passages never even make it to the final version, but are thrown out after testing, etc. Making a test like the SAT is really expensive. I wonder how a much smaller, newer organization without a comparable infrastructure is actually creating this test, and how reliable it is, etc.

[Anonymous]

"classical education" has a very western Christian bent, so I can see why FL and the MAGA love it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"classical education" has a very western Christian bent, so I can see why FL and the MAGA love it.

Well, yes. But it also has an Islamic bent, as Islamic philosophy also pulled from the Greco-Roman tradition and cross-pollinated with Western European philosophy, which is why the president of Zaytuna College, America's first Muslim college, is on their board. And it also draws people interested in the more liberal aspects of the Western tradition, which is why you see Cornel West there, too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Florida likes to have their own version of things, 20 plus years ago I know you had to take the Florida Teachers Certification Exams instead of Praxis like everywhere else.

Yet they’ve now got the best rated schools in the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lots of crazy homeschoolers in Florida--always has been. A "classical education" is the newish buzzword for evangelical christian homeschool curriculums.

It's literally not.

I can’t speak for the college test that’s the subject of this thread, but yes “classical academy” in Florida 100 percent means Christian nut jobs. Here’s ours in Sarasota. Note the time line starts at creationism. And the webpage throws around the word “virtues” a lot, but side steps religion. But everyone in town knows these guys are lunatics, even if they are learning Latin. This is where the Zieglers sent their kids before sending them to pineview.

https://tcasarasota.com/uncategorized/teaching-the-timeline/

[Anonymous]

What difference does it really make? If a student wants to apply to a Florida school using the SAT/ACT they are still free to do so.

This test is just another option. Since Bright Futures scholarships only apply to in state students why should anyone not in Florida care that this test is offered?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What difference does it really make? If a student wants to apply to a Florida school using the SAT/ACT they are still free to do so.

This test is just another option. Since Bright Futures scholarships only apply to in state students why should anyone not in Florida care that this test is offered?

Florida needs some help finding the Classic Learning (i) Test.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

A "classical education" is the newish buzzword for evangelical christian homeschool curriculums.

That is absolutely not true. A classical education emphasizes the true, the good, and the beautiful. Yes. there may be a religious angle, but the focus is literature, history, and languages (Latin or Greek), all with a focus on developing good character. There are traditional approaches to learning grammar, including sentence diagramming. Math and science are rigorous. Evolution is taught.

https://welltrainedmind.com/a/classical-education/

Boston Latin and Washington Latin are classical schools, and many homeschoolers use classical curricula. But please continue to spread the myth that we're all a bunch of uneducated rubes.

More than anything, progressives hate the “focus on developing good character” part.

[Anonymous]

So I looked at a sample test for this today and it was REALLY HARD. So I’d encourage everyone to check it out before assuming it will be easy.