Official Brett Kavanaugh Thread, Part 4

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Anonymous wrote:A YLS grad reviews Mark Judges book, Wasted. There’s a lot in the book that matches Bart’s testimony and many of the notes in the yearbook and not in a good way.

https://www.newsweek.com/brett-kavanaugh-investigation-i-read-mark-judges-book-wasted-heres-what-fbi-1151447

direct link to free pdf download:

https://ia902900.us.archive.org/30/items/Wasted_20181003/Wasted.pdf

Kavanaugh will write a memoir of his own which surely will include the rambling he spoke of in such embarrassing detail at the hearing (the one really nice day with Timmy). There will be a chapter on how to be a cool bro as well.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

All the complaints re: BK are code for I don't want a conservative in the 5th seat

Regarding temperment, all that matters is his 30 year track record and temperment as a JUDGE (highest rating available), not in the circus hearing which de-based the Senate

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:If you're too drunk to avoid being accused of committing sexual assault, you're kind of asking for it. Guys should watch what they drink.

I love you!!!

That's it! "He asked for it!"

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Anonymous wrote:The investigation is a waste of time because the Republicans are going to vote to confirm, they don’t care that he lied unde oath, they don’t care if he attacked a woman, they only care that he is not only conservative but that he will be partisan. We simply need to vote the Republicans out.

I'm just sure you mean, ALLEGEDY attacked a woman. Funny how that one little word changes things.

No, you don't understand. They don't care if it's a proven fact that he attacked a woman. They don't care if he gets drunk and beats his wife every night. They only care that he will uphold what policy Republicans want.

That's just B.S. and you know it. What we have are allegations. Nothing more. If there was incontrovertible proof, that would be that; but that's not what we have, is it?

DP. That's what the investigation is for. But you don't care enough to wait for its conclusion before you rush to judgement.

What are you talking about? *I* haven't rushed to judge anybody. That's the whole point of my post. Right now, all we have are allegations. Nothing to say he did or did not do it. So I'm not about to say he's guilty (as so many of you already have) based on pretty much no real evidence. I'm happy to wait for the FBI to conclude their investigation, and then make up my mind. You don't even need this investigation; you're so certain he's guilty already. Sick.

Exactly. This FBI investigation should not even have needed to happen. It's a delay tactic that gives the Democrats time to continue their smear campaign

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Anonymous wrote:The investigation is a waste of time because the Republicans are going to vote to confirm, they don’t care that he lied unde oath, they don’t care if he attacked a woman, they only care that he is not only conservative but that he will be partisan. We simply need to vote the Republicans out.

I'm just sure you mean, ALLEGEDY attacked a woman. Funny how that one little word changes things.

No, you don't understand. They don't care if it's a proven fact that he attacked a woman. They don't care if he gets drunk and beats his wife every night. They only care that he will uphold what policy Republicans want.

That's just B.S. and you know it. What we have are allegations. Nothing more. If there was incontrovertible proof, that would be that; but that's not what we have, is it?

You still don't understand. They don't care if there were incontrovertible proof. If they had it, they would hide it. If it were made public, they would deny it. That's why they have been rushing this through from the beginning. That's why they are withholding 100,000 documents. That's why they could hold up Merrick Garland for a year but can barely hold up Kavanaugh for a week. That's why they didn't want Mark Judge to testify about it.

And don't tell me what I know or don't know. You don't know me at all. I have my own opinions. You have yours.

You just have to get over the Merrick Garland thing. They could do it, so they did it. Unless a new law is passed I’m sure that the favor will be returned one day. But being bitter doesn’t help.

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.timeinc.net/time/4527889/ruth-bader-ginsburg-merrick-garland-confirmation

+1,000

[Anonymous]

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I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

DP. I understand what you're saying and don't disagree with the idea. But you picked a dud. He blew it. That wasn't the Dems' fault. Just his.

Bullsh*t. Democrats launched an absolute smear campaign and you know that which is why you disagree with the idea. I'm glad he behaved the way he did. I wish he had gone full-nuclear, frankly. They deserved it full-stop.

You will do the same to the next one. And the next. And the next. It's what the left has devolved into. It's amoral and reprehensible.

It was in SJC power to have a vote as planned, and confirm K. They decided to put both Ford and K on the stand instead of closed door FBI investigation. Well, shit hit the fan. Nobody's wearing white anymore.

What happens to next is unpredictable. It's still unclear who lost in this shit-shoe. I'd say it's lose-lose for everyone. Ds won't do the same thing anytime soon.

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This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

This is exactly correct. Thank you.

Wrong. Coming from a long line of police officers. COMPLETELY wrong. BIGLY WRONG.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

Most people probably would come out swinging. But most people aren’t federal Judges. I was a federal law clerk. And the stepped up Hatch Act provisions and ethical rules Judges (and their clerks in terms of the Hatch Act) agree to live under are oppressive. Your political activity is limited to voting. No yard signs. No car magnets. No donating money. No expressing a political opinion in public. Clean social media. Financial disclosures for judges. Recusals if it could appear you could not be impartial. My judge had to recuse because my DH had an ownership interest in a company that he was scheduled to hear in his court. When I left, My cases at my next job had to be screened to make sure they had not appeared before my judge while I was there. Lawyers all take an ethics class in law school, a seperate ethics bar, and have ongoing ethics training. This stuff is taken very seriously.

So yeah. Most people woukd come out swinging. But what you don’t get is most people are not trying to be a Supreme Court Justice. If he really could not control himself, he has no business being seated.

[Anonymous]

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I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

DP. I understand what you're saying and don't disagree with the idea. But you picked a dud. He blew it. That wasn't the Dems' fault. Just his.

Bullsh*t. Democrats launched an absolute smear campaign and you know that which is why you disagree with the idea. I'm glad he behaved the way he did. I wish he had gone full-nuclear, frankly. They deserved it full-stop.

You will do the same to the next one. And the next. And the next. It's what the left has devolved into. It's amoral and reprehensible.

He did. We'll see what good it did him.

And I'm not a lefty or a Democrat.

He actually didn't. You want to see full nuclear? Come after my husband and kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

All the complaints re: BK are code for I don't want a conservative in the 5th seat

Regarding temperment, all that matters is his 30 year track record and temperment as a JUDGE (highest rating available), not in the circus hearing which de-based the Senate

The 6 previous background investigations did not show a flawless track record. Hmm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A YLS grad reviews Mark Judges book, Wasted. There’s a lot in the book that matches Bart’s testimony and many of the notes in the yearbook and not in a good way.

https://www.newsweek.com/brett-kavanaugh-investigation-i-read-mark-judges-book-wasted-heres-what-fbi-1151447

direct link to free pdf download:

https://ia902900.us.archive.org/30/items/Wasted_20181003/Wasted.pdf

Thanks! Ive been looking for this masterpiece.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

You are right. I should have taken the time to write a proper post. It would be the most profound mistake to confirm him. I cannot see how it cold be allowed. The damage would be profound and irreversible. Kavanaugh would continue to be a problem on the Court.

I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

Two wrongs do not make it right. Nomination of clean conservative judge is not giving in to the left. It's standing by the rule of law.

Clean conservative judge? LOLOL. Where are they in the left's mind? There are none. The only clean conservative judge to a liberal is a liberal judge.

Gimmi second Gorshich

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still trying to figure out what his letter means in these scope of things. That a bunch of high school/college guys got drunk while at the beach. Nothing in that letter is any different then anything he said in testimony.

"Loud obnoxious drunks with prolific pukers," but ralphing is all about his week stomach, right? An obvious lie just got more obvious. When he was under oath, why didn't he just say he had wild drunken parties at the beach and sometimes he threw up. Nobody really cares about his drinking back then. So why can't he just admit it?

Well, clearly the Democratic senators DO care - very much - about his partying as a teenager. Otherwise, why on earth would they have wasted time asking about the meanings of some crass slang words from his yearbook? Such a stupid tactic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I hope he is rejected . It is better for republicans for mid terms. Will invigorate voters after seeing how Democrats destroyed this man for politics

Be like the health care law. It was better that Obamacare was not overturned

Same thing here , best thing that can happen for republicans is that report shows nothing and Kavanaugh withdraws

Amen

I don't think they have the votes. It will end the same way Harvard did. He really upset the legal community. He will get counseling from his team, then the announcement will follow.

Amen. For all the Devils Triangles and spiked punch talk, what he did in the 80s is irrelevant. Because his behavior at the hearing was absolutely disqualifying. The rudeness, the contempt of members of Congress, his inability to keep his cool, the Cliton conspiracy crap— all of it. And maybe you have to be a member of the legal community to understand it. But if you are going to be a federal judge, you agree to certain guidelines. One is to have a judicial temperament— to be the calmest person in the room, to be the one who diffuses tense situations and reigns people in, and not lose your temper. Another is to avoid even the appearance of partiality or impropriety.

I have seen people say they would be upset too. So would I. But if you can’t hold it together, you are not qualified to be a judge. It’s like being a therapist and not being empathetic. Being a judge is a job the requires certain personality traits.

I have never heard that K has the reputation for being a hot head. So his temper tantrum was shocking. And stupid. I have seen it reported that McGann cleared the room after Fords testimony and told him he had to come out swinging. If true it was terrible advice and complete amateur hour. And it sank the nomination. He would have been hearing cases this week if he had kept his cool.

I work with lawyers from the Federalist society to Berniefan club. And everyone agrees that seating him would seriously damage the legitimacy of the Court and that he should withdraw.

To say the legal community is really upset is an understatement.

This cracks me up. Attack a man by accusing him of attempted rape. Have activists make his family's life a living hell. The say he doesn't have the temperament for a judge because he came in swinging to protect himself and his family.

When an innocent man is wrongly accused, that's usually how they react. Ask any police officer as it's one of the things they look for in a suspect when someone is murdered. Guilty people tend to act more like Ford did, i.e. story changes all the time, can't pin down details, say someone can vouch and they can't, etc.

Most people probably would come out swinging. But most people aren’t federal Judges. I was a federal law clerk. And the stepped up Hatch Act provisions and ethical rules Judges (and their clerks in terms of the Hatch Act) agree to live under are oppressive. Your political activity is limited to voting. No yard signs. No car magnets. No donating money. No expressing a political opinion in public. Clean social media. Financial disclosures for judges. Recusals if it could appear you could not be impartial. My judge had to recuse because my DH had an ownership interest in a company that he was scheduled to hear in his court. When I left, My cases at my next job had to be screened to make sure they had not appeared before my judge while I was there. Lawyers all take an ethics class in law school, a seperate ethics bar, and have ongoing ethics training. This stuff is taken very seriously.

So yeah. Most people woukd come out swinging. But what you don’t get is most people are not trying to be a Supreme Court Justice. If he really could not control himself, he has no business being seated.

Can you say set-up?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
I do not agree. Giving in to this type of terrorism from the left only breeds more.

DP. I understand what you're saying and don't disagree with the idea. But you picked a dud. He blew it. That wasn't the Dems' fault. Just his.

Bullsh*t. Democrats launched an absolute smear campaign and you know that which is why you disagree with the idea. I'm glad he behaved the way he did. I wish he had gone full-nuclear, frankly. They deserved it full-stop.

You will do the same to the next one. And the next. And the next. It's what the left has devolved into. It's amoral and reprehensible.

Your sanctimony is bordering on absurdity. Plenty of amorality and reprehensible behavior on the part of the GOP, not the least of which demonstrated by the POTUS. Kavanaugh could have been strong but collected, sharp but respectful. Instead he acted like a spoiled, disrepectful, partisan brat. Boo hoo.

The GOP has poisoned our politics and divided our country. Shame!