Schools with positive cases thread - post here

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:At the time perhaps, but now is the time to move forward with a no-opt out system, such as will be implemented in the federal government. In addition the vaccine now has full FDA approval. Also, the case numbers are showing that unvaccinated adults are the primary risk in schools
These are not necessary teachers, but cafeteria workers, office personnel, cleaners, etc. The failure to move swiftly on the no opt out vaccine mandate is yet another major failure of the Bowser administration after an 18-month closure of schools.

I agree with most of this. I don't support exemptions. With the current mandate in place, a fuller mandate can be adjudicated if necessary.

[Anonymous]

Unpopular opinion: yes, only assholes/idiots would teach kids under 12 and not be vaccinated. And only assholes/idiots would send their unvaxxed kids into a public school right now.

[Anonymous]

The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That troubles me along with the idea of unvaccinated security guard that every member of school must pass to enter. Montgomery County has a stronger mandate for adults and athletes. Rocketship charter and other charters have stronger mandates. It’s time for all of DC to have the same for all schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: yes, only assholes/idiots would teach kids under 12 and not be vaccinated. And only assholes/idiots would send their unvaxxed kids into a public school right now.

People all over the world have been sending unvaccinated kids to school throughout the pandemic, including me. Sucks for your kid’s that they are missing out. My kids have been having a blast.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

for DCPS the data shows adults are a hugely disproportionate vector.

for adults in general, the CDC says “ Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/transmission_k_12_schools.html#sars-cov-2

any other questions?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

We have gone over this so so many times

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

for DCPS the data shows adults are a hugely disproportionate vector.

for adults in general, the CDC says “ Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/transmission_k_12_schools.html#sars-cov-2

any other questions?

How do we know this for sure if parents aren't testing their kids unless they have symptoms, or are assuming COVID-like symptoms are simply an allergy or cold and not bothering to test at all?

We do know that children lack personal space awareness, need to be reminded constantly to pull their masks up, and lack strong hygiene (not washing their hands, covering their mouths etc).

Far more adults get tested than children, so of course we are more aware of staff-staff transmission vs anything else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

for DCPS the data shows adults are a hugely disproportionate vector.

for adults in general, the CDC says “ Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/transmission_k_12_schools.html#sars-cov-2

any other questions?

How do we know this for sure if parents aren't testing their kids unless they have symptoms, or are assuming COVID-like symptoms are simply an allergy or cold and not bothering to test at all?

We do know that children lack personal space awareness, need to be reminded constantly to pull their masks up, and lack strong hygiene (not washing their hands, covering their mouths etc).

Far more adults get tested than children, so of course we are more aware of staff-staff transmission vs anything else.

right, you’re right and the cdc is wrong.

the disparity in DCPS data is far too big to be attributable to testing adults more (if that’s even true). it’s been known since last year that adults are bigger vectors than kids. zero excuse for not getting vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion: yes, only assholes/idiots would teach kids under 12 and not be vaccinated. And only assholes/idiots would send their unvaxxed kids into a public school right now.

The adults are far more likely to die from this than the kids. People that have the choice to get vaccinated and chose not to take it are not smart, they should not be around children that do not have that choice.

I hope that when the in school testing begins for for the adults they are embarrassed enough to go get vaccinated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

The cafeteria worker example is more about quarantine than actual risk. If one adult is positive and in contact with 100s of kids that can knock entire grades out if a restricted definition of “close contact” is being used. We know that adults are disproportionately bringing covid into schools - so they are a bigger risk than kids both because they are more likely to be infectious and more likely to have “close contact”
with larger groups of kids.

Where is your data showing that adults are more infectious and disproportionately bringing COVID into schools? We’ll wait.

for DCPS the data shows adults are a hugely disproportionate vector.

for adults in general, the CDC says “ Evidence from studies primarily done before vaccine approval for those 12 years of age and older suggests that staff-to-staff transmission is more common than transmission from students to staff, staff to student, or student to student.”

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/science/science-briefs/transmission_k_12_schools.html#sars-cov-2

any other questions?

How do we know this for sure if parents aren't testing their kids unless they have symptoms, or are assuming COVID-like symptoms are simply an allergy or cold and not bothering to test at all?

We do know that children lack personal space awareness, need to be reminded constantly to pull their masks up, and lack strong hygiene (not washing their hands, covering their mouths etc).

Far more adults get tested than children, so of course we are more aware of staff-staff transmission vs anything else.

You’re right. You’ve thought of issues that neither the CDC nor any other expert in the world has considered. Why don’t you send this information off to the NIH and then wait to claim your Nobel Prize.

god, the arrogance

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The idea of an unvaccinated cafeteria worker serving hundreds of vulnerable students is particularly unnerving and completely unnecessary.

That makes little sense. We know that fomite transmission is not the primary method of COVID infection. It is an airborne respiratory virus. The unvaccinated child in their classroom sharing air with them all day is a much greater risk.

+1

Please share this with school administrators who have kids packed into classrooms, hallways and cafeterias but think we all must wipe down the desks after each class because that is how covid spreads. It’s lunacy.