Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no amount of repression of their critics that the Zionists and the other fascists on the far right won’t justify. It’s going to make the inevitable reversal of fortune that much harder for them when the next generation, which largely has negative views of Israel, assumes power.

Lol! We consider you clowns laughable that you can't see you are in the far left extremist minority destined to become pizza delivery drivers or letter carriers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There’s no amount of repression of their critics that the Zionists and the other fascists on the far right won’t justify. It’s going to make the inevitable reversal of fortune that much harder for them when the next generation, which largely has negative views of Israel, assumes power.

If what we’ve all witnessed recently of the next generation is any indication, these dopes wouldn’t be able to find their way out of a paper bag. Luckily, I think these extremists are very much in the minority. I have college students of my own and they think these protesters are ridiculous. I’m counting on the sane young people to lead the way - not these moron radicals.

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Anonymous wrote:Which one of you raised these thugs?

Birthright?

A mob of thugs. If there is an ounce of justice left in this world, federal indictments will arise from those attacks the other night. Anything less is a stain on our democracy. The frenzied attack of that encampment was one of the most disturbing things I've seen in my life that didn't involve definitive, actual loss of life. It is fair and accurate to say that those counter-protesters behaved like rabid animals on the UCLA campus.

Everyone who cheered what they did. Those who financed them (looking at you Ackman apparently Jessica Seinfeld). Disgraceful. An army of vile, vicious Stu Seldowitz drones.

And for the record, the only "Western values" those vicious twatwaffles demonstrated were the Western values that were once embraced in America - slavery and diminished civil rights for non-whites. Absolute disgrace. Nothing in all of these college protests comes close to topping the despicable events of that night, and that's saying a lot when we've all seen 117 lb. 65 year old economic professors DDT'd into concrete by two officers who carry sidearms and possessn an assortment of crowd control training and equipment, and outweigh her collectively by 350 pounds.

I agree. The police need to hire a 65 year old 117 lb. officer so that the professor had a fighting chance. Trial by combat, just like the good old days.

Was that the only tactics these two officers had for controlling a 65 year old woman? If so, training has failed miserably.

This isn't about whether the protesting was right or wrong. Pick your side, lock it in, it doesn't change for one second the fact that embarrassingly ineffective public safety tactics were on display in far too many cases. I agree with others that the job wasn't enviable for hard working officers. But that, too, isn't the issue. You cannot defend that use of force with an unarmed, geriatric subject. Sorry, you just can't.

If what we saw is how officers from those agencies are trained to control someone like that professor, they need new training. Fast.

I see your point, but strongly disagree.

Simply put, the police are being out in a literally impossible position.

They’re ordered to clear out the protesters.

The protesters refuse to leave and use barricades, lock arms, etc.—all designed to make the police use physical force to remove them.

Then protesters physically resist when police begin to arrest/detain them.

At that point, police have to use more force to complete the arrest/removal.

In the meanwhile, some protesters are accosting, grabbing, pushing, throwing things at the police.

I’m not trying to score political points here—I literally see no other options for police in these circumstances.

DP. You are correct. The protesters deliberately antagonize the police, all to get a filmable reaction for social media - “Look how brutal these pigs are!!” Then the protesters make themselves as heavy and unwieldy as possible so the police will have to physically drag them. More photo ops. The manipulation is really quite disgusting and my heart goes out to the police who are just trying to do their job.

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The deep relationship between the New York Police Department and Israel has been greatly strengthened over the last two decades, as the NYPD has sought Israeli expertise in counterterrorism and as Israeli police have looked to New York for their “broken windows” model of community policing.
Since 2002, the New York Police Department has blurred the work of urban policing, counterterrorism and intelligence to a degree that is unprecedented for any American police department. This transformation included the creation of the infamous “Demographics Unit,” which ran a secret program monitoring Muslim communities that was revealed in a Pulitzer-winning series by the Associated Press in 2011. In this program – sprawling from NYC all the way to Canada – the NYPD treated basic acts of daily living as potential crimes, surveilling Muslims in their homes, mosques, schools, restaurants, coffee shops, and universities.
The surveillance, use of infor

https://deadlyexchange.org/participant-profiles/#:~:text=Since%202002%2C%20the%20NYPD%20has,facilitated%20by%20non%2Dgovernmental%20organizations.

Shocker the NYPD see Columbia students as terrorists. Again WTF?

Yeah, I can guess your age from your post.

You know nothing but your allegiance to another country. It is shocking anyone would think training in police tactics and intelligence by Israel would come to anything but racist profiling. The Israelis are a joke in terms of intelligence, fighting and policing. Look at how many times they have been hit by surprise attacks. Every major war. Lucky they have the US to bail them out of their incompetence.

This didn't have anything to do with Israel. As I said, you are young. You don't know what a huge impact 9/11 had on this country, the tremendous changes, mostly negative, that happened.

Why don’t you address the FACT that the architects of 9/11 literally, repeatedly identified our U.S. support of apartheid Israel as their singular motivation for 9/11, and then work back from there and try unsuccessfully to explain why that support continues?

Do you believe that if the US condemned Israel and withdrew support that the world would be safe from Islamic terrorists?

Sure, why not? The U.S. would not be targeted by that brand of terrorism anyway. You act like Islamist terrorism occurs in a vacuum without any external factors. Fascinating.

I don’t buy the propaganda manufactured to continue the money flowing to Israel. You evidentially do.

So the only problem jihadists have with the US is its support of Israel? That's it? Their only problem is Israel?

I can only go by what they themselves pointed at as their singular motivation. If you were inclined to plan something that horrific and devastating, what would be the point of doing it and then concealing your real motivation? Now you have our attention, so you … decide to drop your REAL grievance and make up some shit about Israel? On what planet do you dwell where people act like that?

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Of course that’s their primary grievance - U.S. foreign policy in the ME has been unwelcome there for decades, and it has gotten far worse in the past 25 years.

Why do you think we have to bribe almost every government in the region with cold hard cash?

Well, sounds like the only thing standing in the way of peace on earth is Jews. Got a solution to that problem?

Israel is the problem, not Jews. The solution to the problem is to suspend financial and diplomatic support until Israel’s leaders are forced to compromise and make appropriate concessions, and then re-establish ties with Israel (as a one state solution) or both states (as a 2 state solution) on the basis of normalized relations amongst all countries in the region. Incentivize states to compromise and recognize one another.

And before you say “that will never work” or “they will never normalize and accept Israel” or whatever, what’s your plan? For Israel to just continue taking land and killing people in the region until nobody is left but a bunch of slobs from Teaneck and Kyiv? You think that’s a realistic plan?

I don't have a plan. But I'm not naïve enough to think that Israel ceasing to exist is the answer to the world's problems.

Israel has every right to exist but they need to play nice with their neighbors. They need to grow up and tackle their own problems without running to mommy. So far, Israel’s approach has been to use U.S as a proxy and do whatever the hell they want, they have antagonized every single neighbor, it’s a terrible strategy.

For people that are quite smart, I am unable to fathom why don’t they use diplomacy instead of these brutal tactics currently in place.

They have peaceful relationships with most of their neighbors. They HAVE played nice with Gaza, but got attacked in return.

LOL seriously?!? If only they had thought of using diplomacy...hmmm. guess they never thought of that before. Read.a.history.book. and then come back to us

[Anonymous]

Iran university offers scholarships to students expelled from US and European universities during protests

https://www.cnn.com/business/live-news/university-protests-gaza-05-01-24/h_d4727093cf8ac7321c48e3bfafd950ea

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There are tweets that NYPD arrested non-affiliates (not students or faculty) at both CCNY and Columbia clashes. The number of non affiliates of the CCNY participating that were arrested is over 60%, a lot less in Columbia, but still something like 30%.

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Anonymous wrote:Which one of you raised these thugs?

Birthright?

A mob of thugs. If there is an ounce of justice left in this world, federal indictments will arise from those attacks the other night. Anything less is a stain on our democracy. The frenzied attack of that encampment was one of the most disturbing things I've seen in my life that didn't involve definitive, actual loss of life. It is fair and accurate to say that those counter-protesters behaved like rabid animals on the UCLA campus.

Everyone who cheered what they did. Those who financed them (looking at you Ackman apparently Jessica Seinfeld). Disgraceful. An army of vile, vicious Stu Seldowitz drones.

And for the record, the only "Western values" those vicious twatwaffles demonstrated were the Western values that were once embraced in America - slavery and diminished civil rights for non-whites. Absolute disgrace. Nothing in all of these college protests comes close to topping the despicable events of that night, and that's saying a lot when we've all seen 117 lb. 65 year old economic professors DDT'd into concrete by two officers who carry sidearms and possessn an assortment of crowd control training and equipment, and outweigh her collectively by 350 pounds.

I agree. The police need to hire a 65 year old 117 lb. officer so that the professor had a fighting chance. Trial by combat, just like the good old days.

Was that the only tactics these two officers had for controlling a 65 year old woman? If so, training has failed miserably.

This isn't about whether the protesting was right or wrong. Pick your side, lock it in, it doesn't change for one second the fact that embarrassingly ineffective public safety tactics were on display in far too many cases. I agree with others that the job wasn't enviable for hard working officers. But that, too, isn't the issue. You cannot defend that use of force with an unarmed, geriatric subject. Sorry, you just can't.

If what we saw is how officers from those agencies are trained to control someone like that professor, they need new training. Fast.

I see your point, but strongly disagree.

Simply put, the police are being out in a literally impossible position.

They’re ordered to clear out the protesters.

The protesters refuse to leave and use barricades, lock arms, etc.—all designed to make the police use physical force to remove them.

Then protesters physically resist when police begin to arrest/detain them.

At that point, police have to use more force to complete the arrest/removal.

In the meanwhile, some protesters are accosting, grabbing, pushing, throwing things at the police.

I’m not trying to score political points here—I literally see no other options for police in these circumstances.

DP. You are correct. The protesters deliberately antagonize the police, all to get a filmable reaction for social media - “Look how brutal these pigs are!!” Then the protesters make themselves as heavy and unwieldy as possible so the police will have to physically drag them. More photo ops. The manipulation is really quite disgusting and my heart goes out to the police who are just trying to do their job.

+1 my thoughts as well!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There’s no amount of repression of their critics that the Zionists and the other fascists on the far right won’t justify. It’s going to make the inevitable reversal of fortune that much harder for them when the next generation, which largely has negative views of Israel, assumes power.

If what we’ve all witnessed recently of the next generation is any indication, these dopes wouldn’t be able to find their way out of a paper bag. Luckily, I think these extremists are very much in the minority. I have college students of my own and they think these protesters are ridiculous. I’m counting on the sane young people to lead the way - not these moron radicals.

Nixon and Reagan both won because of youth votes.

These protestors are getting dementia-ridden Trump elected.

[Anonymous]

Zionists/fascists are all over the post working overtime to discredit some of the most educated and smartest people. Must be desperate times now that the facade is over.

I’d love to know whether it’s the same poster over and over trying to discredit these students and faculty / defend the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Zionists/fascists are all over the post working overtime to discredit some of the most educated and smartest people. Must be desperate times now that the facade is over.

I’d love to know whether it’s the same poster over and over trying to discredit these students and faculty / defend the police.

Fully agree. Bootlickers working overtime

[Anonymous]

At Portland State University a car started to accelerate towards protesters before he eventually stopped, sprayed the protesters with pepper spray, and ran away.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/2024/05/02/portland-state-protest-car-driver-detained/a856b4e2-08e8-11ef-b186-090cb777107e_story.html

Here is a video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABLAHTdOPYQ

[Anonymous]

About 60 peaceful pro-Palestinian protesters gathered at the University of Mississippi yesterday (not an encampment, a protest which is their right) and then over 200 counter-protesters showed up.

Counter protesters threw water bottles and food at the protesters and shouted things like "hit the showers”, “your nose is huge”, and "lock her up". Police had to evacuate the protesters for their safety.

Here's a video of the racist thugs:
https://twitter.com/StaceyJSpiehler/status/1786215481164071355?t=nu4wX17s3Nt0THkpmJUQ4w&s=19


https://mississippitoday.org/2024/05/02/it-wasnt-equal-counter-protesters-overwhelm-pro-palestinian-students-at-the-university-of-mississippi/
https://www.aol.com/ole-miss-students-evacuated-off-195947280.html

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Good grief.

Maybe they should have spent more time studying instead of protesting.

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Anonymous wrote:Good grief.

Maybe they should have spent more time studying instead of protesting.

this is so absurd.