Protests on college campuses

[Anonymous]

The professor was told to disperse. He did not.

He FAFOd.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

If you physically get in the way of a police officers while they are trying to arrest someone, yah, you are going to end up on the ground.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

DP. Not sure you're opinion is unpopular, it is pretty well known and understood. And you're correct that these protests are drawing attention, local, national, international, as opposed to previous protests that didn't.

Are they successful? Are they going to change Israeli actions or US policy? Or hearts and minds? I guess we'll see.

I don’t think people like the idea of beating down Americans on American soil at the whim of the Israeli government and their apologists. Kind of proves the protestors might have a point.

I’ll say I don’t really support the focus on this issue, we have plenty to be concerned about right here. We’re not fighting this war- we’re merely giving stuff and platitudes. I wouldn’t be surprised to find out a hostile government had a role in making young people think this is the most important issue of the day. No, the fact that our ultra-religionists are wrecking our democracy just as they wrecked Israel’s is more concerning and worthy of more immediate attention to me.

[Anonymous]

But is that right? That assumes the police actions are ALWAYS in the right. I don't know that that's 100% case.

Moreover, how much force the police put forth should be considered. Are you suggesting they can beat up anyone they want just because they are police??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

If you physically get in the way of a police officers while they are trying to arrest someone, yah, you are going to end up on the ground.

Bingo

TBH I feel bad for the officers. They do not want to do this but they are following the law....unlike the immature kids and teachers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But is that right? That assumes the police actions are ALWAYS in the right. I don't know that that's 100% case.

Moreover, how much force the police put forth should be considered. Are you suggesting they can beat up anyone they want just because they are police??

You are a wackadoodle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

If you physically get in the way of a police officers while they are trying to arrest someone, yah, you are going to end up on the ground.

Bingo

TBH I feel bad for the officers. They do not want to do this but they are following the law....unlike the immature kids and teachers.

Exactly. Vast, vast majority of Americans are disgusted with what’s going on in these violent protests. The students are given multiple opportunities to depart. The police are called by the university administration once they can no longer control their campuses.

[Anonymous]

In general, the red states are cracking down early. The blue states are allowing these encampments to build and fortify/take over buildings.

It’s going to be violent when the police are finally called in. These protesters are using plywood and skateboards as weapons. They will never match the resources of the police.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

Where is the footage of the beatdowns? It's certainly not in this thread.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In general, the red states are cracking down early. The blue states are allowing these encampments to build and fortify/take over buildings.

It’s going to be violent when the police are finally called in. These protesters are using plywood and skateboards as weapons. They will never match the resources of the police.

Sure because you know decent against Israel is not allowed.

[jsteele]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

Where is the footage of the beatdowns? It's certainly not in this thread.

I don't know if this is the professor in question, but it fits the description:

[Anonymous]

Joe Scarborough Blasts MSNBC Viewers ‘Too Stupid’ To See Campus Protests Hurting Biden’s Reelection: ‘Change to Another Channel’

“If you’re offended by this, please, I’m trying to help you. I don’t want Donald Trump to get elected. All right? I’m trying to help you. If you’re too stupid to figure that out, you can change to another channel.”

“Because we’re sorting through this as a country, and this is not helping. This is not helping the people of Gaza. And this is not helping those of us who want to fight fascism in America.”

"You remember 68? It was a tidal wave. There's a reason that Reagan won with a lot of young voters in 1980. There’s a reason the Reagan Revolution took place. The seeds were planted in 1968. And again, when I say that, I’m not saying that the Vietnam War wasn’t an unjust war. It was."

"Martin Luther King and others have proven that there are ways to help the cause without aiding the worst elements in American politics."

[Anonymous]

jsteele wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Unpopular opinion #1: Most Americans don’t like the First Amendment when they disagree with the message, and are willing to turn authoritarian real quick to shut down the message when the delivery mechanism inconveniences them.

Unpopular opinion #2: peaceful, out of the way protests aren’t memorable, don’t attract attention, and don’t drive change.

Hate to say it, but provoking a heavy handed, violent police response - which is incredibly easy to do given fact 1 above, is about the most effective thing these protestors could do. Think about the images you remember from the Civil Rights movement. Think about Stonewall. Think about Vietnam. Now think about a 60-year old history professor getting beat down over a foreign nation’s war.

The history professor engaged police. FAFO.

I wasn’t aware that “engaging police” was a crime that could be immediately punishable by beatdown. Can you cite the statute? I live a nation of laws where the cops are public servants and held to high standards, not thug street law.

Where is the footage of the beatdowns? It's certainly not in this thread.

I don't know if this is the professor in question, but it fits the description:

Okay, the guy coming in at the end with the knee. But all the footage of protesters being put to the ground to be cuffed is not a beatdown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joe Scarborough Blasts MSNBC Viewers ‘Too Stupid’ To See Campus Protests Hurting Biden’s Reelection: ‘Change to Another Channel’

“If you’re offended by this, please, I’m trying to help you. I don’t want Donald Trump to get elected. All right? I’m trying to help you. If you’re too stupid to figure that out, you can change to another channel.”

“Because we’re sorting through this as a country, and this is not helping. This is not helping the people of Gaza. And this is not helping those of us who want to fight fascism in America.”

"You remember 68? It was a tidal wave. There's a reason that Reagan won with a lot of young voters in 1980. There’s a reason the Reagan Revolution took place. The seeds were planted in 1968. And again, when I say that, I’m not saying that the Vietnam War wasn’t an unjust war. It was."

"Martin Luther King and others have proven that there are ways to help the cause without aiding the worst elements in American politics."

Amazing that Scarborough can say something that is absolutely correct.

[Anonymous]

I’m the one who posted the Scarborough quote. I don’t like him, but was pretty shocked that he actually said this on his broadcast.