Protests on college campuses

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Anonymous wrote:Snipers on the roofs at UCLA.

Showtime.

Oh gee…you are positively giddy at the prospect of American kids being shot and bloodied, no? This is showtime for you? Just the way bodies buried under the rubble in Gaza are showtime?

Seriously, is this the psychology we are dealing with?

Unfortunately, yes.

We’re dealing with a segment of the Zionist population that is deeply insecure and perversely mean-spirited following the atrocities that occurred during WWII. Feelings of insecurity regarding their intelligence and physical capabilities have led us to this point, where everyone can see the common themes emerge over and over again. And it’s definitely not within all Zionists, but enough of them that it’s clearly become a problem.

Anyone who opposes them is attacked as “young / naive”, “uninformed”, “stupid”, “crazy”, “sick and deranged”, “leaving understanding”, “pro-Hamas”, and on and on. There’s an obsession with vengeance and punishing others. The anger feels almost personal, as we see with the rage-fueled doxxing campaigns, trying to get at people to harm them, to destroy them, to make them pay.

There’s also an obsession with not just dominating Israel’s neighbors in the ME (with U.S. support, sadly), but humiliating them, dehumanizing them, and indiscriminately killing them. For years, we heard tales of IDF heroics, the clandestine Mossad missions, and relentless boasting about the “best fighting force in the world”. All of that was engineered from the need to feel strong and capable again, feelings of competence that the scumbag Nazis ruthlessly stole from them.

Meanwhile, “Never Again” has been co-opted by these extremists to mean “never again will our weakness and ignorance” be used against us. If they have to kill everyone else to feel safe, no matter how irrational their fears are, that’s an acceptable bargain to them.

So that’s why you find that segment of Zionists laughing about and making light of the misfortune of others, ignoring the horrific wrongdoing in their own camp, and committing to defend Israel over everything else (including America).

It’s their only shot at feeling whole and capable again. And in some ways, it’s understandable. But at what cost? And where does it end? I wish I knew.

This long winded baloney, probably written by a protestor cowering sleepless in a skanky tent, comes as close to hate speech as anything I have seen even in this sordid thread. Replace the word Zionist with any other group, and you will see what I mean. I hope this post and the poster gets thrown out of this forum. Absolute filth.

Those who disagree, imagine the post is about any other political group comprised of people of a certain ethnicity, where the group is being hate-psychoanalyzed by invoking the historical injustices suffered by their ethnic ancestors.

I urge you to read this essay by Erik K. Ward of the Southern Poverty Law Center because the group that is insecure, angry, and struggles to accept the progress of the civil rights movement isn’t the Jewish people who survived the Holocaust. Antisemetism doesn’t only threaten Jews.

https://politicalresearch.org/2017/06/29/skin-in-the-game-how-antisemitism-animates-white-nationalism

The SPLC, like the ACLU, lost its moral compass over the past ten years. Both were organizations I deeply admired; both have become organizations that have subverted their values and become what they used to defend against. They are examples, to my mind, of how even good organizations can corrupt and twist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Protect students." LOL.

Parents - choose where you want to spend your money wisely.
Find a university that believes in education and not indoctrination.

I’m so grateful my kid chose a small SLAC right now. Kid is near finals, like all the kids, and heads down in books. There is none of this absurd nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, a huge portion of the most extreme rhetoric is being communicated by outsiders. Columbia students didn't go out and bring in tents - it was outside activist groups who mobilized equipment and meal trains.

Anyways, if I'm a university president there's a few basic rules I put into force immediately:

1. No outside protestors on campus. If you're not carrying a university ID, you're not protesting on campus. Go find an embassy, a public park, or the sidewalk.

2. No tents, umbrellas, shade structures, or semi-permanent structures of any kind in public space. They will be removed immediately. Common spaces are to be shared with non-protestors

3. Further, no overnight campouts or protests. Allow protesting from sun up to sun down, but overnight requires quiet time for sleeping, studying, and facilities maintenance.

These should've been basic rules at universities for a long time. Time and place restrictions are allowed under the 1st Amendment.

1000%

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot believe American students are protesting this but have not been protesting Roe being overturned with this much fervor, which has far more direct effect on their lives. I swear it’s a TikTok influence thing.

Yup.,There’s so much right outside their front doors they could protest. They don’t have to go thousands of miles away.

Maybe they’re convinced Hamas be very excited to honor their pronouns.

They are protesting this and not Roe because the progressive left is as deeply misogynist as the right. That’s why they overlook (or worse, embrace) the horrific treatment of women in Gaza by Palestinians. The protestors are fine embracing an ideology that explicitly casts women as second-class, with about the same legal status as livestock because for many of them, they want that imported here.

Not protesting Roe but protesting like this for Gaza isn’t a mistake. It is part of their overall ideology.

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Anonymous wrote:The “grownups” are finally in charge and apparently they are thugs.

Chilling, haha. What a bunch of babies.

I usually don’t care about protests. But the vandalism out of UCLA was disappointing. I mean the hammer and sickle graffiti just pathetic.

The only people who laugh at violence are psychopaths.

Before the military descended on UCLA, the vulgar class, was shrieking about the safety of Jewish kids who had to walk past a Palestian flag or a scarf.

Post military occupation of UCLA, 25 students are hospitalized.

hospitalized because they fainted due to lack of a hot lunch?

That’s how the Nazis talked about your malnourished grandma in the ghetto.

You’re seriously out of line. The more you rant on here the clearer your anti-semitism shows.

You mean it’s painful to think about your loved ones being humiliated for lacking basic human needs, like a need for nourishment? Only vulgar creatures like you find lack of nourishment funny.

let me get this straight: white UCLA students demanding hot food for lunch is the same as Jewish elderly people starving in the ghetto. Is that right?

Making fun of people because they request food is vulgar.

They request HOT food. If you are hungry, you aren't picky.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, a huge portion of the most extreme rhetoric is being communicated by outsiders. Columbia students didn't go out and bring in tents - it was outside activist groups who mobilized equipment and meal trains.

B.S.
You are the company you keep. If your protests are continually upstaged by outsiders who are harming the message of your movement, then group. Maybe try writing letters to your congressmen, giving interviews to local news stations. You are not obligated to protest alongside these people, or to allow your activities to be co-opted by them.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, a huge portion of the most extreme rhetoric is being communicated by outsiders. Columbia students didn't go out and bring in tents - it was outside activist groups who mobilized equipment and meal trains.

Anyways, if I'm a university president there's a few basic rules I put into force immediately:

1. No outside protestors on campus. If you're not carrying a university ID, you're not protesting on campus. Go find an embassy, a public park, or the sidewalk.

2. No tents, umbrellas, shade structures, or semi-permanent structures of any kind in public space. They will be removed immediately. Common spaces are to be shared with non-protestors

3. Further, no overnight campouts or protests. Allow protesting from sun up to sun down, but overnight requires quiet time for sleeping, studying, and facilities maintenance.

These should've been basic rules at universities for a long time. Time and place restrictions are allowed under the 1st Amendment.

Constitution guarantees right to peaceful protest
You do not get to make the rules, if umbrellas are allowed when there is no protest then you cannot ban umbrellas.
If anyone can walk around the campus without an id then so be it

Is there an attack on democracy and rights to protest?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can smell lots of old farts on this thread. Our gerontocracy is a disaster and it’s in denial. So glad these kids are standing up for justice against the bs America’s political class has been arming+funding in Palestine. And the political class’s crap isn’t just ugly in human rights terms, it’s destructive to America’s strategic interests. But boy is it a grift for insiders, including many Democrats like Joe Biden.

It’s over, oldsters! You have become fascists to cover up the hustle, backing down now is how you reliably preserve some of your world, otherwise all sorts of crazy things can happen.

You’ve lost the argument if you have to desperately scramble and claw for ageist insults to make your point.

These protests have very, very little support across all age and ethnicity groups. Why? Because they sound and act like entitled brats. And there is no group that likes a brat.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"Protect students." LOL.

Parents - choose where you want to spend your money wisely.
Find a university that believes in education and not indoctrination.

I’m so grateful my kid chose a small SLAC right now. Kid is near finals, like all the kids, and heads down in books. There is none of this absurd nonsense.

Most of the top SLACs have encampments. And many of them are not bandwagoning. Student newspapers have been calling for divestment from Israel’s apartheid activities for the past decade. It picked up steam in the past three years. SJP students have been doxxed and at this point the kids don’t care and neither does the faculty. You cannot shove Zionist propaganda down throats anymore.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Like I said, a huge portion of the most extreme rhetoric is being communicated by outsiders. Columbia students didn't go out and bring in tents - it was outside activist groups who mobilized equipment and meal trains.

Anyways, if I'm a university president there's a few basic rules I put into force immediately:

1. No outside protestors on campus. If you're not carrying a university ID, you're not protesting on campus. Go find an embassy, a public park, or the sidewalk.

2. No tents, umbrellas, shade structures, or semi-permanent structures of any kind in public space. They will be removed immediately. Common spaces are to be shared with non-protestors

3. Further, no overnight campouts or protests. Allow protesting from sun up to sun down, but overnight requires quiet time for sleeping, studying, and facilities maintenance.

These should've been basic rules at universities for a long time. Time and place restrictions are allowed under the 1st Amendment.

Constitution guarantees right to peaceful protest
You do not get to make the rules, if umbrellas are allowed when there is no protest then you cannot ban umbrellas.
If anyone can walk around the campus without an id then so be it

Is there an attack on democracy and rights to protest?

Many of these protests are happening on private campuses. So that already throws your argument out the window.

In the case of UCLA - a public university - the school can absolutely impose reasonable time and place restrictions on 1st Amendment activities on the basis of safety, maintenance, quiet enjoyment, and shared use. UCLA's conditions must be content neutral.

https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I can smell lots of old farts on this thread. Our gerontocracy is a disaster and it’s in denial. So glad these kids are standing up for justice against the bs America’s political class has been arming+funding in Palestine. And the political class’s crap isn’t just ugly in human rights terms, it’s destructive to America’s strategic interests. But boy is it a grift for insiders, including many Democrats like Joe Biden.

It’s over, oldsters! You have become fascists to cover up the hustle, backing down now is how you reliably preserve some of your world, otherwise all sorts of crazy things can happen.

You’ve lost the argument if you have to desperately scramble and claw for ageist insults to make your point.

These protests have very, very little support across all age and ethnicity groups. Why? Because they sound and act like entitled brats. And there is no group that likes a brat.

Stop gaslighting. Literally everyone I know supports these protests. I am a right wing conservative for god’s sake and here I am strongly aligning myself with liberals over this issue of Palestine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I can smell lots of old farts on this thread. Our gerontocracy is a disaster and it’s in denial. So glad these kids are standing up for justice against the bs America’s political class has been arming+funding in Palestine. And the political class’s crap isn’t just ugly in human rights terms, it’s destructive to America’s strategic interests. But boy is it a grift for insiders, including many Democrats like Joe Biden.

It’s over, oldsters! You have become fascists to cover up the hustle, backing down now is how you reliably preserve some of your world, otherwise all sorts of crazy things can happen.

+1

I’m surprised and how white and old the politics subgroup on DCUM is. No wonder they are out of touch and cannnot foresee what is going to happen. Let them eat cake……

Trump will be the President in 2025. I called it in November 2023. But the white, oldies refused to listen. Me thinks that is what they want in any case. Their covert racism is frankly far worse than MAGAs.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The “grownups” are finally in charge and apparently they are thugs.

Chilling, haha. What a bunch of babies.

I usually don’t care about protests. But the vandalism out of UCLA was disappointing. I mean the hammer and sickle graffiti just pathetic.

The only people who laugh at violence are psychopaths.

Before the military descended on UCLA, the vulgar class, was shrieking about the safety of Jewish kids who had to walk past a Palestian flag or a scarf.

Post military occupation of UCLA, 25 students are hospitalized.

hospitalized because they fainted due to lack of a hot lunch?

That’s how the Nazis talked about your malnourished grandma in the ghetto.

You’re seriously out of line. The more you rant on here the clearer your anti-semitism shows.

This thread is getting out of hand. I can't get over how insane it is that people are comparing Jewish people to Nazis. It's sickening.

Turns out being Jewish does not preclude one from being a fascist.

wtf are you even talking about

Honestly, this thread is turning me into a pseudo republican. I can't believe the stuff I have read. I've never voted for a republican in my 45 years and I will still vote for Biden but I will 100% be voting for Hogan in MD.

Yeah, that poster talking about the grandmother is absolutely vile. 💯

I’m a moderate Democrat who is probably voting Republican in a blue state this fall. I’m done.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like I said, a huge portion of the most extreme rhetoric is being communicated by outsiders. Columbia students didn't go out and bring in tents - it was outside activist groups who mobilized equipment and meal trains.

Anyways, if I'm a university president there's a few basic rules I put into force immediately:

1. No outside protestors on campus. If you're not carrying a university ID, you're not protesting on campus. Go find an embassy, a public park, or the sidewalk.

2. No tents, umbrellas, shade structures, or semi-permanent structures of any kind in public space. They will be removed immediately. Common spaces are to be shared with non-protestors

3. Further, no overnight campouts or protests. Allow protesting from sun up to sun down, but overnight requires quiet time for sleeping, studying, and facilities maintenance.

These should've been basic rules at universities for a long time. Time and place restrictions are allowed under the 1st Amendment.

Constitution guarantees right to peaceful protest
You do not get to make the rules, if umbrellas are allowed when there is no protest then you cannot ban umbrellas.
If anyone can walk around the campus without an id then so be it

Is there an attack on democracy and rights to protest?

Many of these protests are happening on private campuses. So that already throws your argument out the window.

In the case of UCLA - a public university - the school can absolutely impose reasonable time and place restrictions on 1st Amendment activities on the basis of safety, maintenance, quiet enjoyment, and shared use. UCLA's conditions must be content neutral.

https://firstamendment.mtsu.edu/article/time-place-and-manner-restrictions/

You do realize you are speaking to multiple people that are trying to explain to you?

I also don’t have any more time left today to devote explanations to you today. You will never change. Their are permanent curtains on your eyes.