NCS and St. Albans misconduct

[Anonymous]

Go 16:23. Current US parent here who has tried to speak with the NCS administration re a legit problem. We were dismissed with no resolution or further contact.

[Anonymous]

This is now a board governance issue, otherwise nothing will be done. By design.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article states that the St. Albans head will NOT be investigating. Talk about burying the lead!!! This is why it has to be in the newspaper.

People need to (a) read school letters themselves and not rely on someone else's characterization of them -- they are publicly available and linked to the Washington Post article; (b) read the Post article themselves; and (c) try to read more carefully.

The whole incident broke in the week before break. You cannot tell from the facts in the underlying letter whether either school is aware of the identities of mail students alleged to have either acted (1) inappropriately at parties (from what some posters say, the Google Doc does not name names, which would seem reasonable); or (2) by going on social media in response to the Google Doc (as any social media savvy parent is aware, it is very easy for kids to set up dummy instagram accounts or otherwise anonymously go after someone on social media). However, in the newspaper article, I read it to say that the school was still investigating and had specifically NOT ruled out potential disciplinary actions once they know more (and once they are in fact back in session).

Those who have signed a private school contract also know that, as a prior poster referenced, schools have broad discretion to take disciplinary/enrollment actions for behavior that is not on school grounds (e.g., a student who was arrested/convicted of a crime could be disenrolled).

Most likely there will be a number of actions taken that we in Internetlandia will know nothing about, because they will be actions that the schools take within their own communities. That includes potentially serious disciplinary actions. In general schools do NOT widely publicize disciplinary actions because of privacy concerns.

Actually the Post article states that reached by phone the StA Upper school head said there would not be an investigation unless there was some kind of complaint filed. So they are disgusted by what they read and aren't going to investigate further. They should pull every boy in and grill them individually and threaten to throw them out if anything else happens. But the current admin will not do this because their school has been like this for years and they like it this way. Their problem is that it showed up in the newspaper.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This is now a board governance issue, otherwise nothing will be done. By design.

Do the boards realize how many alumni will not give money because of their horrible memories of the schools ignoring this violent crime committed by their students? NCS has real fundraising problems- do they realize that this is a factor?

[Anonymous]

I am really unsure where the NCS board stands because they, too, are silent. Time to hear from them. Time they step in and see if they can manage the school.

[Anonymous]

Yeah, can't wait for the board to post a response on DCUM, because that would be entirely appropriate.

[Anonymous]

It's interesting to watch a bunch of socially awkward/low EQ people discuss teen sexuality and "dating".

If your head of school are as clueless about this subject as you are it is no wonder this is an issue.

I also find it interestingly that NCS think their solution is to wash their hands of the situation and just expect STA boys to act like monks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is when my child was in 7 th grade at NCS there were StAlbans boys going around the dance touching people with their erections. When we complained the NCS middle school head said that the girls who attend the dances knew what to expect. We complained to St Albans and they also refused to do anything. We, as lawyers, suggested that the school wasn't helping the boys by treating these criminal acts as though they were jokes. But they refused to do anything. I don't think these are Christian schools as most people would understand the term. It's a perverted atmosphere.

WTF!!??!

I'm sorry but this made me laugh. I don't believe it for one minute. Next time come up with a more plausible story.

[Anonymous]

Gruesome but absolutely true. Granted it is hard to believe that they are dismissive of this stuff but it is true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to watch a bunch of socially awkward/low EQ people discuss teen sexuality and "dating".

If your head of school are as clueless about this subject as you are it is no wonder this is an issue.

I also find it interestingly that NCS think their solution is to wash their hands of the situation and just expect STA boys to act like monks.

Who is expecting STA boys to act like monks? What people seem to be expecting is that the STA boys treat girls with respect and don't do sexual things unless the girls consent. Is that what you consider "acting like monks"?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to watch a bunch of socially awkward/low EQ people discuss teen sexuality and "dating".

If your head of school are as clueless about this subject as you are it is no wonder this is an issue.

I also find it interestingly that NCS think their solution is to wash their hands of the situation and just expect STA boys to act like monks.

Who is expecting STA boys to act like monks? What people seem to be expecting is that the STA boys treat girls with respect and don't do sexual things unless the girls consent. Is that what you consider "acting like monks"?

Plus one

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The article states that the St. Albans head will NOT be investigating. Talk about burying the lead!!! This is why it has to be in the newspaper.

People need to (a) read school letters themselves and not rely on someone else's characterization of them -- they are publicly available and linked to the Washington Post article; (b) read the Post article themselves; and (c) try to read more carefully.

The whole incident broke in the week before break. You cannot tell from the facts in the underlying letter whether either school is aware of the identities of mail students alleged to have either acted (1) inappropriately at parties (from what some posters say, the Google Doc does not name names, which would seem reasonable); or (2) by going on social media in response to the Google Doc (as any social media savvy parent is aware, it is very easy for kids to set up dummy instagram accounts or otherwise anonymously go after someone on social media). However, in the newspaper article, I read it to say that the school was still investigating and had specifically NOT ruled out potential disciplinary actions once they know more (and once they are in fact back in session).

Those who have signed a private school contract also know that, as a prior poster referenced, schools have broad discretion to take disciplinary/enrollment actions for behavior that is not on school grounds (e.g., a student who was arrested/convicted of a crime could be disenrolled).

Most likely there will be a number of actions taken that we in Internetlandia will know nothing about, because they will be actions that the schools take within their own communities. That includes potentially serious disciplinary actions. In general schools do NOT widely publicize disciplinary actions because of privacy concerns.

Actually the Post article states that reached by phone the StA Upper school head said there would not be an investigation unless there was some kind of complaint filed. So they are disgusted by what they read and aren't going to investigate further. They should pull every boy in and grill them individually and threaten to throw them out if anything else happens. But the current admin will not do this because their school has been like this for years and they like it this way. Their problem is that it showed up in the newspaper.

Read the article -- that's not an accurate characterization but I'm not going to try to type out the relevant material on my phone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:All I know is when my child was in 7 th grade at NCS there were StAlbans boys going around the dance touching people with their erections. When we complained the NCS middle school head said that the girls who attend the dances knew what to expect. We complained to St Albans and they also refused to do anything. We, as lawyers, suggested that the school wasn't helping the boys by treating these criminal acts as though they were jokes. But they refused to do anything. I don't think these are Christian schools as most people would understand the term. It's a perverted atmosphere.

WTF!!??!

I'm sorry but this made me laugh. I don't believe it for one minute. Next time come up with a more plausible story.

This is called "grinding" and unfortunately it is almost the norm at most schools.

[Anonymous]

No one on here has posted what actually happened at this alleged Saint Albans party where some of the NCS girls were present.

I can assure you, the Saints Albans administration could care less what people are posting on this silly anonymous website.

In today's world, this could happen at any school, public or private. Boys have always verbally thrown epithets at women. whether it's based off their out fit or sexual appearance - it happens. And quite frankly, some of these girls based on how short their prom dresses pr homecoming dresses are, are clearly looking for attention.

Again based on the 14 pages on this thread I still don't have a picture what happened. If a girl was forced to do something physically against here will, then yes their should be an investigation.

Let's not blame the schools here but what about parenting. Doesn't every single parent in this day n age speak to their son and daughter on the dangerous of sex, alcohol and drugs and respecting your peers. It seems to be so many people on this website feel they are so entitled, they are always looking for blame elsewhere.

High school kids will always be immature - hopefully they learn and grow from their own actions ans reckless mistakes. Private Schools can't police what happens at parties on the weekends but parents can!

Signed,
Former STA parent

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's interesting to watch a bunch of socially awkward/low EQ people discuss teen sexuality and "dating".

If your head of school are as clueless about this subject as you are it is no wonder this is an issue.

I also find it interestingly that NCS think their solution is to wash their hands of the situation and just expect STA boys to act like monks.

Who is expecting STA boys to act like monks? What people seem to be expecting is that the STA boys treat girls with respect and don't do sexual things unless the girls consent. Is that what you consider "acting like monks"?

Girls text topless pictures, post sexually suggestive pictures on Instagram, get wasted and grind on the boys at parties and people are surprised that the boys make advances at the girls?

The bays and girls need to learn how to more respectful of each other.

I am not slut shaming the girls, they make mistakes, but it is neither more nor less criminal than what the boys do.