+2. At the end of the day, no one wants to hire someone that is going to not be able to do the work. |
I loved that part. I'm not exactly a Northeastern stan, to put it mildly, so this made me laugh at loud. |
+1 |
+1000 Yes your legacy kid may not have gotten in because when admission rates fall to 3 pct it is hard for anyone to get in. But legacy kids still have a much much better shot than the kid who isn’t genetically blessed with an elite school alum parents. |
You are assuming that legacies and non-legacies, on average, have the exact same qualifications otherwise. |
I don't think they know what they are talking about as usual. |
Yes it is difficult to hang with the rich kids at elite colleges. I attended one 30+ years ago. 60% of students received no Financial aid (so think full pay at a school that is now 90K+). Hard to truly be friends with kids who go on ski trips for winter break and spring break, to Mexico or to Europe with their friends when I was just focused on "I have $10 for my weekend spending---do I go out to dinner or do I go to a movie with friends. Because I don't have enough for both". I certainly wasn't going to concerts or other events that cost $$. And for breaks, well first I had to work work work of I wouldn't' be able to afford the next semester. but certainly didn't have money for trips like that either. |
The girl in the article is wealthy, a legacy with perfect test scores, great grades, and private school education PS -12th. Plus the parent has donated to Dartmouth for more than 20 years. I think she’ll be fine.
The point in the article is that perfect children get rejected, but I’d be a little embarrassed being the example of the perfect child here. |
Nowhere in the prior posts does it say that legacies and non legacies are exactly the same. But if your argument is that because your legacy kid or some other legacy kid got rejected that legacies are no longer a big hook, that’s not an evidence based argument. |
I can imagine it’d be difficult. Did you stay friendly with anyone after college? |
I’m a biglaw partner at a famous top 3 law firm. My parents were immigrants; I’m first generation American. Most of the other partners are scrappy and trying to make as much money as possible. The generational wealth and they really clued in UC networked lawyers, they left after putting a year or two into being a lawyer at a big white shoe law firm, and then started their own hedge fund or private equity firm with family/inherited $$. They are now our clients. But for one minute, none of us think we are one of them. Most of the scrappy partners do extremely well ($5mm/yr), and some make nearly $10 million a year, but, no that we are not part of that old-school moneyed circle. But we’re trying to get there. It’s all a giant social hierarchy. The lawyers are the ones who are not born into money. If you were born into family money, you never become a worker scribe at a white shoe law firm. No, you are always the client. |
And no, I don’t want any of my kids to be a partner at a big law firm. I want them to do better. And not be stuck at the bottom of this totem pole. |
Yes, I have a great group of friends from college and still in touch with all of them. However, 95% of my friends from college were like me, onn FA, work-study and MC or lower families. I'm still in touch with all of them, and I have 2 friends who were "rich" that I'm in touch with. But I just found it was much easier to be good friends with people on similar levels. |
Fine maybe the word discrimination is technically wrong, but ED favors those who can afford college without financial concerns, even more than the regular process already does. ED is tough for those requiring aid as they cannot compare financial offers from various schools prior to making a decision (some may, but theoretically students are supposed to pull all of their outstanding apps once they get an ED offer). For those needing aid, I would suggest ED 2 as a better option as some of the state school decisions come out prior to ED2 decisions and if you are happy with your state school option, you can switch your ED2 app to RD prior to the ED2 decision (this reduces the advantage of ED2, but does give you the ability to compare options). |
+1. Just like the 3.0/3.2 College gpa kid who struggles a bit with "pure academics" but is smart, motivated and works well with others, can often go far much faster than some of the smart kids who don't have a tippy top work ethic. Once someone gives that kid a chance, they are set and will go far. |