Racially insensitive halloween costume?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's absolutely nothing wrong with dressing up as someone from another culture as long as it's done with a spirit of admiration. It's a celebration of other cultures. And you really see no difference between a child wearing a traditional outfit of another culture that they appreciate and someone going out in blackface, then you have real problems. To the poster who says it marks the dressed-up-as culture as "other," well, duh. For many of us, most cultures are other.

+1

+2 I said the same thing previously in the thread and was called a racist.

[Anonymous]

I would bet $100 that all of the posters who are getting so upset about the kimono/sari Halloween costumes are white women.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would bet $100 that all of the posters who are getting so upset about the kimono/sari Halloween costumes are white women.

that would be weird wouldn't it?
Imagine telling a little Japanese girl who very proudly wore her kimono that she shouldn't because it was "racially insensitive"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would bet $100 that all of the posters who are getting so upset about the kimono/sari Halloween costumes are white women.

Yes, white women who have all repeatedly said they see nothing offensive about a Japanese or Indian (or other race) wearing kilts/lederhosen/etc that are commonly worn among our European ancestors. So why is the reciprocal automatically so disrespectful?

[Anonymous]

Because we are insensitive white devils!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

I'm a Kimono is a weird answer. She is wearing a kimono. Saying it's a kimono isn't answering the question of what the costume is, kimonos are a piece of clothing, not a costume. That is like someone dressed in a ballerina dress, answering what are you with It's a dress. Doesn't make sense - they would say what the dress signifies - a ballerina.

So if what the kimono signifies is that her costume is a little Japanese lady then answer that. You could also put a black wig on her and maybe do some eye shaping with make-up or tape to complete the outfit.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

I'm a Kimono is a weird answer. She is wearing a kimono. Saying it's a kimono isn't answering the question of what the costume is, kimonos are a piece of clothing, not a costume. That is like someone dressed in a ballerina dress, answering what are you with It's a dress. Doesn't make sense - they would say what the dress signifies - a ballerina.

So if what the kimono signifies is that her costume is a little Japanese lady then answer that. You could also put a black wig on her and maybe do some eye shaping with make-up or tape to complete the outfit.

why would anyone do that? This thread is about someone wearing a kimono.

[Anonymous]

An Indian woman recently posted that she sees nothing wrong with this, and that she would think its cute if a non-Indian girl trick or treated at her house in a sari.

So I think that ends the PC debate. It's fine to dress in the traditional garb of another culture (and fwiw, garb is not a deragotary term; in fact, traditional garb is a commonly accepted phrase).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

I'm a Kimono is a weird answer. She is wearing a kimono. Saying it's a kimono isn't answering the question of what the costume is, kimonos are a piece of clothing, not a costume. That is like someone dressed in a ballerina dress, answering what are you with It's a dress. Doesn't make sense - they would say what the dress signifies - a ballerina.

So if what the kimono signifies is that her costume is a little Japanese lady then answer that. You could also put a black wig on her and maybe do some eye shaping with make-up or tape to complete the outfit.

why would anyone do that? This thread is about someone wearing a kimono.

Because the kimono isn't just an outfit she is wearing out one day, it is her Halloween costume - she would better complete the costume (of dressing up as a Japanese lady) if she went for more than just the kimono. Just like if you are dressing like a cat, adding the whiskers with face paint makes it more authentic.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

I'm a Kimono is a weird answer. She is wearing a kimono. Saying it's a kimono isn't answering the question of what the costume is, kimonos are a piece of clothing, not a costume. That is like someone dressed in a ballerina dress, answering what are you with It's a dress. Doesn't make sense - they would say what the dress signifies - a ballerina.

So if what the kimono signifies is that her costume is a little Japanese lady then answer that. You could also put a black wig on her and maybe do some eye shaping with make-up or tape to complete the outfit.

why would anyone do that? This thread is about someone wearing a kimono.

Because the kimono isn't just an outfit she is wearing out one day, it is her Halloween costume - she would better complete the costume (of dressing up as a Japanese lady) if she went for more than just the kimono. Just like if you are dressing like a cat, adding the whiskers with face paint makes it more authentic.

you should read the OP. The poster remarked to her husband that she thought the kimono outfit in a catalogue looked cute. Now your making stuff up to prove some point (not sure what it is?).

[Anonymous]

Just because one Indian woman thought it would be fine doesn't end the debate. I am an Indian woman and I would think it inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have four kids - maybe I'll dress one up as an African American person, one as a Chinese person, one as a Hispanic person and leave one white and they can go as diversity or the UN.

No one is suggesting dressing up as any of the people you describe. Dressing in a Sari or dressing in a Kimono is not dressing up as an Indian person or a Japanese person. Same reason why dressing up in Lederhosen or wearing Klomps as the dutch do is not a mockery.

Are you really this stupid IRL, or do you just play a stupid character on the internet?

So how would you answer the question about what her costume is? If your child dressed in a kimono or a sari and someone asked what were you for Halloween - what would she respond?

"It's a kimono! Isn't it beautiful?"

exactly. apparently common sense isn't good enough anymore when choosing a Haloween costume.

I'm a Kimono is a weird answer. She is wearing a kimono. Saying it's a kimono isn't answering the question of what the costume is, kimonos are a piece of clothing, not a costume. That is like someone dressed in a ballerina dress, answering what are you with It's a dress. Doesn't make sense - they would say what the dress signifies - a ballerina.

So if what the kimono signifies is that her costume is a little Japanese lady then answer that. You could also put a black wig on her and maybe do some eye shaping with make-up or tape to complete the outfit.

why would anyone do that? This thread is about someone wearing a kimono.

Because the kimono isn't just an outfit she is wearing out one day, it is her Halloween costume - she would better complete the costume (of dressing up as a Japanese lady) if she went for more than just the kimono. Just like if you are dressing like a cat, adding the whiskers with face paint makes it more authentic.

I don't think adding whiskers makes your costume any more "authentic." Easier to discern, sure. But Halloween isn't particularly about "authenticity," sometimes, at least when you're a little girl, it's about wearing something pretty and out of the ordinary, like a kimono or a sari or a bunad. It's trying on another persona. I was a nurse in the first grade; so sue me, my costume was accurate(-ish) to the 1940s, and not to what nurses wore in the 1980s when I wore the costume.