Prepping/Scamming the Cogat

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why is being familiar with the test a bad thing?

Because that speaks to familiarity and not innate giftedness. I assume.

[Anonymous]

Define prepping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is being familiar with the test a bad thing?

Because that speaks to familiarity and not innate giftedness. I assume.

But it is AAP, not GT. Hard work and preparation makes for good "academic" performance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Among some communities, prepping is just like studying - it's taken for granted. If there is an opportunity for one's child to advance or be challenged, why not prepare them?
Either all kids should have the opportunity to prep or none should. Why doesn't FCPS just keep the test a surprise? Perhaps just give 1-2 days notice so kids can get a good night's sleep.

All parents have the opportunity to prep our children.

Most of us don't. I know I wouldn't, beyond the standard good night's sleep, hearty breakfast and last minute advice as we drop off in the kiss and ride lane.

If they want to prep, good for them. I hope they reap the rewards of all that hard work. They certainly won't be holding anyone in the class back since they know how to work hard.

But they may be holding your unprepared kids back, who may not have made the grade because they were not prepared, only well rested and fed.

[Anonymous]

So once again, the end result is a program for exceptional students, not gifted children. I question why we need centers to accommodate these kids. Better we just call it what it is--tracking--and keep them in their base schools. We'd save money on busing and all of the other costs associated with AAP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I prepped my child, and I am glad I did. He is in the pool and he will be admitted based upon his other academic credentials. He will be challenged and get better teachers and be among better, more serious classmates. He will learn good study habits and more material. He will then be better prepared for AP classes and high school. This will advance him in his class ranking, grades, and SATs. He will do better as a result, get into a better college and then get a better job and career. He will make more money, live in a bigger house, attract a prettier wife, and join a nice country club. He will learn the value of being prepared and teach this to his children by prepping them when they are in second grade. As a result they will be admitted to AAP and will repeat their in their fathers success.

I have to assume this passage is a parody.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So once again, the end result is a program for exceptional students, not gifted children. I question why we need centers to accommodate these kids. Better we just call it what it is--tracking--and keep them in their base schools. We'd save money on busing and all of the other costs associated with AAP.

On the same notion, why we need centers for so-called "gifted children"? Are they having difficulty catch up with the rest of the class? If the "gifted" can't be "exceptional", or "very good students", what's the "gift" good for? X'mas?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So once again, the end result is a program for exceptional students, not gifted children. I question why we need centers to accommodate these kids. Better we just call it what it is--tracking--and keep them in their base schools. We'd save money on busing and all of the other costs associated with AAP.

On the same notion, why we need centers for so-called "gifted children"? Are they having difficulty catch up with the rest of the class? If the "gifted" can't be "exceptional", or "very good students", what's the "gift" good for? X'mas?

What? Are you unfamiliar with the terminology? Gifted means "talented" as in "advanced."

Gifted children don't have difficulty catching up to the rest of the class. Gifted children are so far down the road, they are waiting for the rest of the children (presumably yours?) to catch up to them.

Did you actually not understand this or are you being deliberately (and obnoxiously) obtuse?

[Anonymous]

As a teacher, I taught some extremely bright kids who were heads and shoulders ahead of the others. I was easily able to accommodate them in my classroom. However, occasionally there is that child that is VERY HIGHLY gifted. This is a child who really is a prodigy. I would think that there are only a handful per grade level across the county. Those children might need something different.
Frankly, I think the whole program should be scrapped.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So once again, the end result is a program for exceptional students, not gifted children. I question why we need centers to accommodate these kids. Better we just call it what it is--tracking--and keep them in their base schools. We'd save money on busing and all of the other costs associated with AAP.

On the same notion, why we need centers for so-called "gifted children"? Are they having difficulty catch up with the rest of the class? If the "gifted" can't be "exceptional", or "very good students", what's the "gift" good for? X'mas?

Gifted is an educational term. Gifted programs are state mandated by VA. Gifted programs exist all over the country.

They used to track, but that doesn't fit into the "everyone's a winner" attitude that they have now.

So they have to test and give the kids a special ed. classification, "gifted" so kids can get the same services they used to receive back when they were tracked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I prepped my child, and I am glad I did. He is in the pool and he will be admitted based upon his other academic credentials. He will be challenged and get better teachers and be among better, more serious classmates. He will learn good study habits and more material. He will then be better prepared for AP classes and high school. This will advance him in his class ranking, grades, and SATs. He will do better as a result, get into a better college and then get a better job and career. He will make more money, live in a bigger house, attract a prettier wife, and join a nice country club. He will learn the value of being prepared and teach this to his children by prepping them when they are in second grade. As a result they will be admitted to AAP and will repeat their in their fathers success.

I have to assume this passage is a parody.

I love trolls, especially on DCUM. Only problem is its hard, and probably sad, that some may really not be trolls. This thread is living up to the entertainment I enjoy here. Carry on!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I prepped my child, and I am glad I did. He is in the pool and he will be admitted based upon his other academic credentials. He will be challenged and get better teachers and be among better, more serious classmates. He will learn good study habits and more material. He will then be better prepared for AP classes and high school. This will advance him in his class ranking, grades, and SATs. He will do better as a result, get into a better college and then get a better job and career. He will make more money, live in a bigger house, attract a prettier wife, and join a nice country club. He will learn the value of being prepared and teach this to his children by prepping them when they are in second grade. As a result they will be admitted to AAP and will repeat their in their fathers success.

LOL

[Anonymous]

Ah yes, we are back to tracking students again. Of course, we can't call it that. So now it's just been renamed AAP. We can't have these little snowflakes mix with "regular" students. That would "slow them down." March on FCPS. Reward and increase opportunities for the kids who test well at the beginning of life. The world is their oyster.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ah yes, we are back to tracking students again. Of course, we can't call it that. So now it's just been renamed AAP. We can't have these little snowflakes mix with "regular" students. That would "slow them down." March on FCPS. Reward and increase opportunities for the kids who test well at the beginning of life. The world is their oyster.

Dividing classes by ability is an effective way to teach the most students to the highest level of ability.

It works in sports, dance, orchestra/music classes, language lessons, art classes, computer programming classes, etc.

I am an exceptionally accomplished seamstress. If I were placed in a beginning or intermediate class or a high school home ec class, I might be able to help others learn to sew, but I would not learn anything new myself. On the flip side, I have a basic background in French and am a decent student, but if I were placed in a level 3 college course I would drown.

What is wrong with meeting students where they are? By pretending everyone is the same, we do a disservice to all.

[Anonymous]

The principal told me to prep! I was so dumb! It took me some time to understand that when he said ..."you go on the Internet and you find some ...ummm materials... then you have your DCs study them...then you will see a rise in scores..." He meant prep, duhh. And then you will leave this school and never come back! What great advice and so glad I did! Really worked well. A win-win for all.