SOLs - why so long to get scores?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

Ok, so they aren’t important to you. Good for you. That doesn’t mean that parents or students that want to see them should be invalidated by you. I personally don’t care too much about the score but am always frustrated with how long it takes to get the results. My kids study for them and to understand how they did soon after is a great learning tool. Are they on the right track or far from it. When you wait until summer, it’s meaningless. Kids won’t remember if they thought the test was easy or hard or what questions there may have been on it. So don’t gaslight. We get it’s not important to you. That doesn’t mean we should all subscribe to your opinion without any reason.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:8th grade DD had an SOL today. She said some kids were handed passes to retake tomorrow because they scored between 375 and 400 (or whatever it is). So ... they know the scores ... and yet we don't get them until summer?? Why? I don't even care for my 8th grader but my 6th grader needs to know how she does on the math 7 SOL to know if she is eligible for Algebra next year.

they used to take months

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

DD's teacher told them she knows the scores within a few minutes. Any movement over the summer is going to be marginal. If you really want to know, just do a FERPA request for the raw scores

[Anonymous]

Here is my logic, if the County is spending 4 weeks preparing for a test then the test is important and I would like the score ina timely manner.

If the County doesn’t want me asking for iReady scores, SOL scores, VGA scores, then the County should place less emphasis on them. But my kid spends almost a full quarter preparing for SOLs, taking SOL/iReady/VGA so I take that as a signal that they are important.

I would be very happy if we got rid of the standardized tests all together and just taught to a curriculum. But we don’t.

And I have a 6th grader who is waiting for scores in order to test into Algebra 1 H next year so I would like the scores back sooner rather then later.

Honestly, the emphasis on the SOLs is ridiculous and the test needs to go. It does not provide any useful data and takes up far too much time in the school year. But if it is there, then it is not unreasonable for parents to want the score and want it in a timely manner.

[Anonymous]

in HS you need them for verified credit. Of course they know the scores immediately now. They just like to be pains. If your kid is in the retake window you find out almost immediately because it benefits THE SCHOOL to have you know and retake.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

I've never heard that, and this has never happened to my child. And there's been a mix: some teachers tell them the next day, some insist on a letter after school ends. Some are fearful of the administration's orders, some do not care and share the score. Do you have a source for this claim of yours?

Also, "raw" scores are never given to parents anyway, it's always scaled scores.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:8th grade DD had an SOL today. She said some kids were handed passes to retake tomorrow because they scored between 375 and 400 (or whatever it is). So ... they know the scores ... and yet we don't get them until summer?? Why? I don't even care for my 8th grader but my 6th grader needs to know how she does on the math 7 SOL to know if she is eligible for Algebra next year.

When I taught 6th grade AAP, those kids found out their scores fairly quickly (within a week) so they would know if they were going into Algebra.

Some teachers tell students their scores but generally, we are asked to wait from the administration until testing/retakes are complete.

Oh, this is good to know. I couldn't remember waiting around a long time with my now 8th grader but I also know generally they have come in the summer. That is helpful if the math 7 scores come back quickly. Also, my 8th grader just said she got her scores at school in 7th grade. I didn't remember that.

I think it varies by school. I teach 6th AAP and we get the scores the next day and I am not allowed to share. It is dumb in my opinion because the kids want to know if they tested into Algebra 1 and won’t find out till middle school contacts them. It is an admin decision.

This is how our school told us they do it as well. We find out in summer if our kid is going into Algebra 1.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

Ok, so they aren’t important to you. Good for you. That doesn’t mean that parents or students that want to see them should be invalidated by you. I personally don’t care too much about the score but am always frustrated with how long it takes to get the results. My kids study for them and to understand how they did soon after is a great learning tool. Are they on the right track or far from it. When you wait until summer, it’s meaningless. Kids won’t remember if they thought the test was easy or hard or what questions there may have been on it. So don’t gaslight. We get it’s not important to you. That doesn’t mean we should all subscribe to your opinion without any reason.

They study for them? More than the ongoing review at school? Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

In my 25 years of teaching, I haven’t seen this happen once. In my personal experience, in middle school or below teachers hold onto them because those are the rules of the school. The teachers might not even be given scores by admin. I suspect they don’t want parent emails and calls.

In high school, students are told immediately and know within a day or so. I post mine to the gradebook as soon as I receive them. It could be the same day or up to two days later.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

Ok, so they aren’t important to you. Good for you. That doesn’t mean that parents or students that want to see them should be invalidated by you. I personally don’t care too much about the score but am always frustrated with how long it takes to get the results. My kids study for them and to understand how they did soon after is a great learning tool. Are they on the right track or far from it. When you wait until summer, it’s meaningless. Kids won’t remember if they thought the test was easy or hard or what questions there may have been on it. So don’t gaslight. We get it’s not important to you. That doesn’t mean we should all subscribe to your opinion without any reason.

They study for them? More than the ongoing review at school? Why?

Our teachers send home homework. Lexia becomes and hour long requirement for the week. DS normally knocks out a good amount of it at school but will have 15-30 minutes some weeks. He has the LA SOL today so I expect the Lexia homework to go away. They have spent the last month in math preparing for the SOL next week. Any homework he has is SOL related. We are not going to tell him to skip the homework he is assigned, so he does it.

[Anonymous]

The scores come into the testing coordinator during the day, and all the teachers at our school are told at the end of the day. We send the scores home with report cards.

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When are the SOL scores available in sis

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

+1 This. Why can’t you all understand this? The tests aren’t that important for God’s sake!!

Ok, so they aren’t important to you. Good for you. That doesn’t mean that parents or students that want to see them should be invalidated by you. I personally don’t care too much about the score but am always frustrated with how long it takes to get the results. My kids study for them and to understand how they did soon after is a great learning tool. Are they on the right track or far from it. When you wait until summer, it’s meaningless. Kids won’t remember if they thought the test was easy or hard or what questions there may have been on it. So don’t gaslight. We get it’s not important to you. That doesn’t mean we should all subscribe to your opinion without any reason.

They study for them? More than the ongoing review at school? Why?

Our teachers send home homework. Lexia becomes and hour long requirement for the week. DS normally knocks out a good amount of it at school but will have 15-30 minutes some weeks. He has the LA SOL today so I expect the Lexia homework to go away. They have spent the last month in math preparing for the SOL next week. Any homework he has is SOL related. We are not going to tell him to skip the homework he is assigned, so he does it.

Oh I thought you meant they study in addition to review provided by school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Virginia reviews the data over the summer and may throw out a bad or unclear question, changing the scores, so they don't like to give parents raw scores.

I've never heard that, and this has never happened to my child. And there's been a mix: some teachers tell them the next day, some insist on a letter after school ends. Some are fearful of the administration's orders, some do not care and share the score. Do you have a source for this claim of yours?

Also, "raw" scores are never given to parents anyway, it's always scaled scores.

What the PP mentioned above is the “Official” reason from VDOE on why we’re not supposed to be sharing scores prior to the summer. But you are correct, in reality, they don’t really throw out questions anymore and rescore. But according to VDOE is is a possibility. (Teacher)