Since STEM is now STEAM,

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.

Why is Sports not a checkbox? so much talent there goes unnoticed


Artistic creativity is vital to the future of technology. You should know this. We can get coders from high schools.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.

Why is Sports not a checkbox? so much talent there goes unnoticed


Artistic creativity is vital to the future of technology. You should know this. We can get coders from high schools.

Sports is better than Arts. Sports is missing on HOPE form. Academics need to move down or second page, not important.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.

Why is Sports not a checkbox? so much talent there goes unnoticed


Artistic creativity is vital to the future of technology. You should know this. We can get coders from high schools.


Ooy. The best coders are familiar with all of the liberal arts.
https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2024/03/computing-college-cs-majors/677792/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?


Every bit as good at what? A kid who has demonstrated math ability is going to be - in the near term - more able to perform at a high level on math than a kid who has not.

The long term is anyone's guess. But back when I was at TJ we had excellent visual artists and kids who could barely color a coloring book and yet everyone finished Calculus.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?


Every bit as good at what? A kid who has demonstrated math ability is going to be - in the near term - more able to perform at a high level on math than a kid who has not.

The long term is anyone's guess. But back when I was at TJ we had excellent visual artists and kids who could barely color a coloring book and yet everyone finished Calculus.

Now it's a different scenario. Few TJ kids likely can color but need remedial math, as mentioned by the principal
Anonymous
https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/critical-and-creative-thinking

AART repeatedly said it's not about how pretty your kid draw or how many words your kid write, it is about demonstrating critical thinking skills. They even told you in the orientation what those skills are, see link above.

For example, for mind mapping, your sample can show a drawing that organizes different information in a creative way. Again, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how they think.

Lesson: find out what the requirement is, and prepare accordingly. Don't just invent requirements that feels right to you.
Anonymous
I submited two artwork for AAP 2024-2025. Our AART does not comment anything on it. And my daughter is in AAP.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?


Every bit as good at what? A kid who has demonstrated math ability is going to be - in the near term - more able to perform at a high level on math than a kid who has not.

The long term is anyone's guess. But back when I was at TJ we had excellent visual artists and kids who could barely color a coloring book and yet everyone finished Calculus.

Now it's a different scenario. Few TJ kids likely can color but need remedial math, as mentioned by the principal


I don't love the new admissions standards and I understand that respected TJ teachers have been speaking out about declining math standards at TJ for over a decade. However I will point out that in order to get a TJ diploma, the kids are still finishing calculus. Maybe they get more help along the way than they used to, maybe not, but they still have to do it in order to graduate from TJ.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?


Every bit as good at what? A kid who has demonstrated math ability is going to be - in the near term - more able to perform at a high level on math than a kid who has not.

The long term is anyone's guess. But back when I was at TJ we had excellent visual artists and kids who could barely color a coloring book and yet everyone finished Calculus.

Now it's a different scenario. Few TJ kids likely can color but need remedial math, as mentioned by the principal


I don't love the new admissions standards and I understand that respected TJ teachers have been speaking out about declining math standards at TJ for over a decade. However I will point out that in order to get a TJ diploma, the kids are still finishing calculus. Maybe they get more help along the way than they used to, maybe not, but they still have to do it in order to graduate from TJ.

The requirement of calculus, and not being able to graduate with just Algebra 2 as currently available at the base school, is what led us to decline the TJ offer.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/critical-and-creative-thinking

AART repeatedly said it's not about how pretty your kid draw or how many words your kid write, it is about demonstrating critical thinking skills. They even told you in the orientation what those skills are, see link above.

For example, for mind mapping, your sample can show a drawing that organizes different information in a creative way. Again, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how they think.

Lesson: find out what the requirement is, and prepare accordingly. Don't just invent requirements that feels right to you.


Your link leads to a page about Level I services in FCPS. This sub forum on DCUM, and this thread, generally discuss the AAP program, and more specifically, the competitive-entry Level IV program.

Specifically, your link leads to

“ Critical and Creative Thinking Strategies, Grades K-6 (Level I). Level I services are open access and a part of the curriculum for all students. Teachers embed critical and creative thinking strategies in lessons across all subject areas and grade levels.”


But I believe you already know that, PP, and are just trolling.
Anonymous
Is there a nervous wreck score for parents and students?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/critical-and-creative-thinking

AART repeatedly said it's not about how pretty your kid draw or how many words your kid write, it is about demonstrating critical thinking skills. They even told you in the orientation what those skills are, see link above.

For example, for mind mapping, your sample can show a drawing that organizes different information in a creative way. Again, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how they think.

Lesson: find out what the requirement is, and prepare accordingly. Don't just invent requirements that feels right to you.


Your link leads to a page about Level I services in FCPS. This sub forum on DCUM, and this thread, generally discuss the AAP program, and more specifically, the competitive-entry Level IV program.

Specifically, your link leads to

“ Critical and Creative Thinking Strategies, Grades K-6 (Level I). Level I services are open access and a part of the curriculum for all students. Teachers embed critical and creative thinking strategies in lessons across all subject areas and grade levels.”


But I believe you already know that, PP, and are just trolling.


This PP keeps referring to the 9 strategies on that page, and they are not wrong. AAP entry at least used to focus on advanced utilization of those 9 strategies. Certainly emphasizing them in write-ups is something AARTs have encouraged over the years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Take a look at the new HOPE scale. Your wish is granted.

https://www.fcps.edu/system/files/forms/2023-10/hoperatingscale.pdf


Thank you PP! Yes, that is exactly what I wanted to hear.

Please that FFX schools have fully embraced STEAM in their admissions to the AAPs.

In case anyone didn’t clic on the web link, it also says on that AAPs form:

World Languages ☐ Visual Arts
☐ Performing Arts

This is personally important for us.

Because while DD has really struggled with math and English, she is an excellent artist for her age cohort, and I feel AAPs is the program she really deserves.


Must be a troll.


I agree. AAP gives you advanced math and maybe some slightly harder work/less support on projects in language arts, social studies, and science. They expect more depth in research and writing. Being an excellent artist won't help you there a bit.


Yes it will. Advanced performance in the arts requires intelligence and use of many parts of the brain.

Why are you claiming artists can’t be every bit as good as kids who just score high on some test?


Every bit as good at what? A kid who has demonstrated math ability is going to be - in the near term - more able to perform at a high level on math than a kid who has not.

The long term is anyone's guess. But back when I was at TJ we had excellent visual artists and kids who could barely color a coloring book and yet everyone finished Calculus.

Now it's a different scenario. Few TJ kids likely can color but need remedial math, as mentioned by the principal


I don't love the new admissions standards and I understand that respected TJ teachers have been speaking out about declining math standards at TJ for over a decade. However I will point out that in order to get a TJ diploma, the kids are still finishing calculus. Maybe they get more help along the way than they used to, maybe not, but they still have to do it in order to graduate from TJ.

The requirement of calculus, and not being able to graduate with just Algebra 2 as currently available at the base school, is what led us to decline the TJ offer.


Good decision for your DC. Well done!
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:https://www.fcps.edu/academics/elementary/advanced-academic-programs/critical-and-creative-thinking

AART repeatedly said it's not about how pretty your kid draw or how many words your kid write, it is about demonstrating critical thinking skills. They even told you in the orientation what those skills are, see link above.

For example, for mind mapping, your sample can show a drawing that organizes different information in a creative way. Again, it's not about how pretty it is, it's about how they think.

Lesson: find out what the requirement is, and prepare accordingly. Don't just invent requirements that feels right to you.


Your link leads to a page about Level I services in FCPS. This sub forum on DCUM, and this thread, generally discuss the AAP program, and more specifically, the competitive-entry Level IV program.

Specifically, your link leads to

“ Critical and Creative Thinking Strategies, Grades K-6 (Level I). Level I services are open access and a part of the curriculum for all students. Teachers embed critical and creative thinking strategies in lessons across all subject areas and grade levels.”


But I believe you already know that, PP, and are just trolling.


All students has to master these thinking skills, but APP applicants needs to demonstrate exceptional ability in these skills. In another word, all student must develop these skills, and AAP applicants are evaluated based on these skills.

But I don't have to persuade you, do your own thing.
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