Yep. Been there. My son made another team and is one of its best players on a team that is better than the one he was not selected for. Some of these teams have their unmistakable cliques facilitated and encouraged by the adult AHs. Blessing in disguised that he was not selected. |
Baseball - same experience. And also there were spots allocated for different rules. I think we didn't "know" enough people/network hard enough/have parent friends to get on the team as we are newer to the area. |
This thought has crossed my mind more than once. I'm busy and introverted, so I'm not in the loop. Maybe it's my fault. My kid has played on a few ad hoc national tournament teams and done well in that setting but has difficulty progressing locally during the regular season. |
NP: one of my DSs plays on a strong and well established travel ball team (with paid coaches- no dads). The core of the team has been together for a few years. The coaches have been clear that they only want to add “immediate impact players” at this point ( ace pitchers etc) so if a spot opens that is generally all they are looking for. They’ve had kids try out who would be in the top half or so of the roster skill wise and they still don’t take them unless they fit a specific need/role (for example if a catcher left -they’d be specifically looking for a catcher). . They view this as being loyal to current players. The team is already playing at the top level of competition and the kids/families get along reasonably well so they aren’t really looking to make changes. I think a lot of teams are similar, up through the early high school years at least. I do think it helps to have connections with other parents as someone else said- they can often alert you to spots opening up on teams (and also clue you in to the kind of kid they are looking for or what positions are open etc). |
What sport? If it is very position dependent- then he could be better than most of the team at general skills, but if they only need 2 of his position, he would need to be better than the kids trying out for that position.
I know certain clubs in certain sports definitely have already formed their teams before tryouts. It depends on the sport, club, coach. |
This is it. A good coach always prefers a known commodity. For example, if your son outperformed the other players that were already on the team, but only marginally, the coach wouldn't be wrong to keep the player that they already know. They know that player has a good attitude, comes to practice on time, has a positive mindset on the sidelines, etc. Forming a team is more than just who has the fastest 40. Especially as these teams have matured and grown together, it gets harder and harder to bump a player from a well coached team |
+1 Adding a new player always brings some unknowns/risks….will he be happy with his role on the team? will he get along well with the other players? Will he show up to practice on time, hard worker? Are the parents supportive and nice? They’ll generally keep the kid they know rather than the rock the boat and take a risk on a new kid. |
Yeah, coach and assistant coaches kids sutomatically make the team-should they coach your kid and cut yours? Lol |
I’d have your son ask what he needs to work on to improve his chances of making the team next year. If not old enough, ask yourself. Common thing to do. Sometimes they will give helpful information (and it may help answer your question), other times not really- but it doesn’t hurt to try.
It could easily be position-related. Hard to tell based on your post. |
The point is the team does not represent the most talented players and nepotism reins. |
Right? Often the dad coaches already have a group of kids/families that want to play together and are are having tryouts just to fill out the rest of the roster. Pretty much the most common way to start a travel team at the younger ages Not a fan of those types of teams for my kids, but they are the most common ones. |
Its not really nepotism if the guy is the coach and his kid is on the team. Now does he need 5 assistant coaches? Hell no, and you avoid those teams. |
The worst teams are the ones with a dad coach plus 5 assistant dad coaches. No one but the coaches' kids get opportunities to play on special teams, take a faceoff, etc. Avoid. |
+1 very true |
Yeah, the 4-5 or five assistant coaches (all dads) is a HUGE red flag. But also, by age 11 or 12, you can be on the lookout for teams with coaches that do not have kids. My kids are 14 and 12 and both are on teams where the coach does not have a child on the team. Tryouts were competitive for sure, but its 100% fair. You earn your spot at SS; you earn that clean-up spot in the line-up. |