Bethesda Row after the Purple Line Opens?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



If you play your cards correctly you could be the next downtown silver spring


What’s wrong with Silver Spring?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



Log off. There are plenty of non wealthy residents in Bethesda who need public transport. Also, aren’t we moving towards more sustainable modes of transportation?!


Are there a lot of residents of Bethesda that are dying for public transport? Where are they going?


People work in Bethesda, doofus.
Anonymous
I don’t disagree that the Purple Line will slowly decay Bethesda row. The local governments are hell bent on creating an urban dystopia at the expense of equity.

I really wish Bethesda would incorporate so we could better control our own issues. Where has public transit made a community more safe? Tenley is in an affluent area and it’s an absolute sh*tshow. The areas surrounding the metro are foul and littered with trash, homeless beggars and delinquent kids
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It will have people congestion but with, per capital, fewer cars. Business there will thrive and there will be plenty of "eyes on the street"

OPs concerns are totally unfounded and bordering on racist.


DP.

Wrong. Her concerns are well-founded.

I worked at a retail complex (a mall) in Baltimore county both before the Baltimore subway opened, and after.

Crime skyrocketed when the subway reached the mall.

It eventually closed because crime made it unprofitable and was later demolished.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree that the Purple Line will slowly decay Bethesda row. The local governments are hell bent on creating an urban dystopia at the expense of equity.

I really wish Bethesda would incorporate so we could better control our own issues. Where has public transit made a community more safe? Tenley is in an affluent area and it’s an absolute sh*tshow. The areas surrounding the metro are foul and littered with trash, homeless beggars and delinquent kids


The area around Tenley are surrounded by multi million dollar homes. Sure, there is a homeless issue, just lie there is all over the region. We need more support services and we need more housing. That isn't the fault of Metro or the purple line.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree that the Purple Line will slowly decay Bethesda row. The local governments are hell bent on creating an urban dystopia at the expense of equity.

I really wish Bethesda would incorporate so we could better control our own issues. Where has public transit made a community more safe? Tenley is in an affluent area and it’s an absolute sh*tshow. The areas surrounding the metro are foul and littered with trash, homeless beggars and delinquent kids


Sometimes I wish the "public transportation just encourages criminals" people could hear how foolish they sound, and other times I don't wish that, because they inadvertently contribute to support for public transportation.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



Can you explain how you think the Purple Line will be different from the transit line that already stops in Bethesda, the Red Line, or from the bus lines that already go there?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



If you play your cards correctly you could be the next downtown silver spring


What’s wrong with Silver Spring?


I sincerely thought the PP meant this sincerely. Downtown Silver Spring is doing quite well, overall, and will do even better once the Purple Line finally opens. The people who delayed the Purple Line and vastly increased its cost have a lot to answer for, though unfortunately I doubt they will answer for it.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



Can you explain how you think the Purple Line will be different from the transit line that already stops in Bethesda, the Red Line, or from the bus lines that already go there?



Just look at a map.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree that the Purple Line will slowly decay Bethesda row. The local governments are hell bent on creating an urban dystopia at the expense of equity.

I really wish Bethesda would incorporate so we could better control our own issues. Where has public transit made a community more safe? Tenley is in an affluent area and it’s an absolute sh*tshow. The areas surrounding the metro are foul and littered with trash, homeless beggars and delinquent kids


That’s because of the nearby psychiatric hospital, not the metro. I mean think about it for 5 seconds. How are you people so dumb
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This may sounds bad, but I am not looking forward to the Purple Line opening. Bethesda Row is already congested with people and Purple line will make it exponentially worse.

I also worry we'll see a lot more crime and bad people. BR is, at present, a pretty safe, wealthy enclave where teens can roam freely without worry. Sure there's crime, but it's mostly not locals. We've all seen the Nike Store robbery videos. Purple line will be low cost transit for people in lower income areas and that isn't always a great combination.

It's also a giant waste of public money, but I guess that ship has sailed. Ugh. Just wish it wasn't happening.

Also, poor Tacombi with that hideous construction plaza blocking all foot traffic for years on end. I hope they are getting a rent concession.



Can you explain how you think the Purple Line will be different from the transit line that already stops in Bethesda, the Red Line, or from the bus lines that already go there?



Just look at a map.


Yes, you're right, the Purple Line will make it easier, faster, and more convenient for people to travel east-west. I'm really looking forward to it. It should have been up and running years ago.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t disagree that the Purple Line will slowly decay Bethesda row. The local governments are hell bent on creating an urban dystopia at the expense of equity.

I really wish Bethesda would incorporate so we could better control our own issues. Where has public transit made a community more safe? Tenley is in an affluent area and it’s an absolute sh*tshow. The areas surrounding the metro are foul and littered with trash, homeless beggars and delinquent kids


The area around Tenley are surrounded by multi million dollar homes. Sure, there is a homeless issue, just lie there is all over the region. We need more support services and we need more housing. That isn't the fault of Metro or the purple line.


It's the fault of the policies that allow people to lie in their faeces who should be institutionalized. Not given vouchers, institutionalized.
Anonymous
We live in Chevy chase are looking forward to PL / CCT opening so we and kids can enjoy both Bethesda and Silver Spring easily
Anonymous
I think there are two separate issues here:

1. Crime. Clearly we need better and more vigorous policing and swifter sharper punishment for offenders, particularly in DC, together with better support services to keep homeless off the streets and kids in schools. Public spaces need to be kept clean and safe.

2. Better public transport is per se a good thing, though I am not sure about the economics of the Purple Line. People should be able to go out and enjoy downtown Bethesda without getting in a car.
Anonymous
Statistically speaking it will likely bring some increase in crime given that the metro will increase the daytime/evening population
in Bethesda. So this would cause per capita crime to go up potentially because people spending time in Bethesda, but not living there will not be counted as residents even though they spend more time there. If you adjust for people hours (including both residents and visitors) it’s possible the actual crime rate will stay the same. Not enough unbiased research on how public transportation impacts local crime. It’s very possible could have no effect or increase crime significantly
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