Forbes 20 'New Ivies'

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Anonymous wrote:Lists like this are click bait.

and it works

Yep, lots of bored people living meaningless lives.

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So in the article there is a column for "percentage of students that submit SAT or ACT" - is that supposed to be meaningful somehow?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lists like this are click bait.

and it works

Yep, lots of bored people living meaningless lives.

.. reading dcum.. kind of like you.

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Anonymous wrote:So in the article there is a column for "percentage of students that submit SAT or ACT" - is that supposed to be meaningful somehow?

It would show that the scores are based on a larger number, which is more indicative of the student body overall vs if only like 5% submitted scores, which would make the average SAT score meaningless.

Basically, sample size.

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Anonymous wrote:Would you please list the 20 schools ?

Thank you in advance & thank you for posting.

Top publics:
Binghamton University
Georgia Institute of Technology
University of Florida Florida
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
University of Maryland-College Park
University of Michigan-Ann Arbor
University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
University of Texas-Austin Texas
University of Virginia Virginia
University of Wisconsin-Madison

The SAT scores are impressive for those publics, and the cost compared to private schools are so much cheaper, even for oos.


Top Privates:
Boston College
Carnegie Mellon University
Emory University
Georgetown University
Johns Hopkins University
Northwestern University
Rice University Texas
University of Notre Dame
University of Southern California
Vanderbilt University

disagree with the article. William&Mary is THE public ivy, has pre-TO SATs that are the same as UVa and higher than half the publics above, AND William &Mary is the most similar to an ivy of all the public Us, based on seminar classes, intellectualism and smalelr undergrad populatiion.

The private they left off is WashU. Bump University of Spoiled Children and put in WashU. Much more similar to Ivy type vibes. USC does not have the same intellectual dynamics.

I do not have a kid at either but I have kids at ivies, toured and know many students at both, and these two schools are ivy-like and should not have been left off.

Boston college is the obvious one that doesn't belong in the private ones.

If it is “obvious,” you should have cited the reasons it is obvious. One idiot just claiming something usually isn’t very convincing. You should have learned that at whatever crap college gave you a degree.

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Anonymous wrote:Both the article and the accompanying list of colleges vibe with what many have observed over the past decade or so. A lot of employers aren't impressed with the general caliber of Ivy grads in recent years compared to prior generations. And anyone who has gone through the college application process recently is very much aware that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are rarely choosing the best and brightest for admittance. They by and large have different institutional priorities these days. The real talent is going elsewhere and this list seems to reflect that. I think it's a pretty solid list of where high caliber students go presently.

How is the real talent going elsewhere if the students admitted to HYP have the top academic indicators over every other school.

When you aren’t paying attention, they feed you the stats for applicants or admitted students, when only the stats of those who attend really matter when judging a student body.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lists like this are click bait.

and it works

Yep, lots of bored people living meaningless lives.

.. reading dcum.. kind of like you.

Nope, not clickbaits

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Anonymous wrote:So glad to see Binghamton there. Happy to see SUNY represented.

Me too!
DS went to Binghamton, done in 3 years thanks to SUNY’s generous acceptance of AP and dual enrollment credits, then to grad school where the money saved on undergrad means he’ll graduate close to debt-free!

Worth looking at SUNYs—for some branches (though not Binghamton or Buffalo) they have extended the in-state tuition rate to neighboring states.

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The only publics that are worthy of this list are UCB, UCLA, UVA, UMich, and honorable mentions to UNC and Gatech. For privates replace BC with WashU and give NYU an honorable mention.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting article out this morning. I'm sure everyone here will agree on the list . . . . .

[url]https://www.forbes.com/sites/emmawhitford/2024/04/29/exclusive-employers-are-souring-on-ivy-league-grads-while-these-20-new-ivies-ascend/?sh=216979fb5585

author must be a BC alumn lol

Haha. I thought the same thing. And I'm guessing the editor went to Binghamton.

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Anonymous wrote:The only publics that are worthy of this list are UCB, UCLA, UVA, UMich, and honorable mentions to UNC and Gatech. For privates replace BC with WashU and give NYU an honorable mention.

that's your opinion. Forbes looked at statistics and surveyed hiring managers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lists like this are click bait.

and it works

Yep, lots of bored people living meaningless lives.

.. reading dcum.. kind of like you.

Nope, not clickbaits

but you clicked on this thread, which has a clickbait title

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Anonymous wrote:So glad to see Binghamton there. Happy to see SUNY represented.

Me too!
DS went to Binghamton, done in 3 years thanks to SUNY’s generous acceptance of AP and dual enrollment credits, then to grad school where the money saved on undergrad means he’ll graduate close to debt-free!

Worth looking at SUNYs—for some branches (though not Binghamton or Buffalo) they have extended the in-state tuition rate to neighboring states.

That’s great, good for him. My daughter is at Buffalo; she loves it and the price tag is good for us!

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Anonymous wrote:Both the article and the accompanying list of colleges vibe with what many have observed over the past decade or so. A lot of employers aren't impressed with the general caliber of Ivy grads in recent years compared to prior generations. And anyone who has gone through the college application process recently is very much aware that Harvard, Yale, and Princeton are rarely choosing the best and brightest for admittance. They by and large have different institutional priorities these days. The real talent is going elsewhere and this list seems to reflect that. I think it's a pretty solid list of where high caliber students go presently.

How is the real talent going elsewhere if the students admitted to HYP have the top academic indicators over every other school.

When you aren’t paying attention, they feed you the stats for applicants or admitted students, when only the stats of those who attend really matter when judging a student body.

NP. So what you are saying is that relatively worse HYP admits accept the offer, whereas the best and brightest choose U of Florida instead

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Anonymous wrote:The only publics that are worthy of this list are UCB, UCLA, UVA, UMich, and honorable mentions to UNC and Gatech. For privates replace BC with WashU and give NYU an honorable mention.

How old are you? You have nothing constructive to add applicable to the last ten-fifteen years.