TJ Falls to 14th in the Nation Per US News

[Anonymous]

All of these people claiming that they were only nine fewer Asian kids are full of shit. The class size went up by 100 students when they change the admissions policy so the fact that there were 100 more kids admitted and fewer Asians is a big big deal.

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Anonymous wrote:sad, race to the bottom; however, this area always votes for this equity crap, so no surprise.

And by bottom you mean going from 100th percentile to 99.95th percentile in national rankings. There are over 25,000 public high schools in America. They are 14th based on the arbitrary criteria of one random magazine, and you think that's the bottom? These are still the best and brightest kids in the entire region, and if a kid got on who isn't a complete genius in math, but he/she is great at math and can actually do something socially - that's a win in my book.

That kid took a more deserving kid’s spot.

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Anonymous wrote:It amazes me how many people think FCPS just used a racial quota for TJ admissions. Everyone — including the farthest-left member of the school board — knows that would be racist and illegal, so why does anyone think FCPS would give it a second thought?

Clearly you haven’t read the emails between the two “farthest left” memebers of the school board who referenced EXACTLY this and how the percentage of Asian students would certainly be reduced by the criteria they were supporting.
They knew that it would.
That was fine with them.
It read as if they were laughing about it and thought it was funny.

So yeah—they don’t care because “white adjacent” I guess?

So, those emails were about a different proposed but not adopted admissions process...

The entire reason to redo admissions was to increase blacks and lower the amount of Asians.

One of the main reasons to change admissions was to increase the number of Black students. They increased the overall class size in order to not lower the number of Asian students.

They succeeded at both - without quotas or race used in the admissions process.

They absolutely reduced the number of Asians, as they wanted to.

Went from 74% Asian to 61.64% Asians. They absolutely did reduce the number of Asians by increasing blacks and Hispanics, which was exactly the goal of changing admissions.

The number of Asians stayed about the same, since they increased the class size to accommodate the increased numbers of URMs. You are referring to percentage. Why? Look at numbers.

I’m not sure where that info is. The info I found and can see is that in the class of 2024, there were 57 kids from Longfellow and 33 kids from Cooper and for the class of 2027, there were 30 kids from Longfellow and only 16 kids from Cooper. I don’t think the kids from McLean are becoming less qualified for TJ but there is a significant drop in spots for kids from McLean.

There was another thread showing the decline of Asian students. This year’s class is only 57%. That is quite a drop. So the drop in rankings is a direct reflection of admission changes. Many people were saying that only the last class was based on the new admissions model, which isn’t true.

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028


Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

This is not the sole factor for decline; there are two additional aspects. Firstly, the caliber of Asian students admitted has decreased. Previously, the merit-based admission test in math, science, and English ensured that the 315 admitted asian students from a pool of 1500 asian applicants were all proficient, advanced, and top-notch. However, the current lottery process makes random selections from the 1500 asian applicant pool, leading to a wide variety of math levels and proficiencies among the selected Asian students. Secondly, while there were previously only 20+ Algebra 1 students admitted before the admission changes, there are now approximately 150 Algebra 1 students admitted into each class. However, these lower level math admissions have taken seats that were previously offered to two year advanced math students from Longfellow, Oakton, etc.

I have a freshman at Langley and he knows several kids who really should be at TJ. It is ridiculous that a kid in remedial math is at TJ while kids who are two grades ahead in math and winning science and math competitions did not get in.

I thought I remembered seeing it posted in other thread here that used to be over 50% (was it as high as 70%??) of students were coming it taking algebra 2 in 8th grade? Saw now 150 might be admitted that are taking algebra 1 in 8th grade (v algebra 2)- that is what had me wanting to remember the % of incoming students that would have completed algebra 2 before starting TJ. I thought it was a huge % pre- admissions change.

Before admissions change, 35% of admits were algebra 2, and 61% were geometry, and 4% were algebra 1.
After admissions change, 18% of admits are algebra 2, 51 percent are geometry, and 31% are algebra 1.

[Anonymous]

I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

Colonial oppression from Asian immigrants???

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Anonymous wrote:sad, race to the bottom; however, this area always votes for this equity crap, so no surprise.

And by bottom you mean going from 100th percentile to 99.95th percentile in national rankings. There are over 25,000 public high schools in America. They are 14th based on the arbitrary criteria of one random magazine, and you think that's the bottom? These are still the best and brightest kids in the entire region, and if a kid got on who isn't a complete genius in math, but he/she is great at math and can actually do something socially - that's a win in my book.

That kid took a more deserving kid’s spot.

No. equity politics admitted an innocent yet unqualified kid, and asked to suffer with Cs and Ds, spend time in remedial, and go through mental stress.

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Anonymous wrote:sad, race to the bottom; however, this area always votes for this equity crap, so no surprise.

And by bottom you mean going from 100th percentile to 99.95th percentile in national rankings. There are over 25,000 public high schools in America. They are 14th based on the arbitrary criteria of one random magazine, and you think that's the bottom? These are still the best and brightest kids in the entire region, and if a kid got on who isn't a complete genius in math, but he/she is great at math and can actually do something socially - that's a win in my book.

That kid took a more deserving kid’s spot.

What do you mean by deserving? If you think a kid is going to get everything in life because he took a multiple choice exam, you're in for a rude awakening. There are other skills besides rote memorization. In fact, most life skills do not mirror test taking. The essays are the best thing that happened to this school. If a kid can't articulate themself and show some well-roundedness - they are not more deserving.

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Anonymous wrote:sad, race to the bottom; however, this area always votes for this equity crap, so no surprise.

And by bottom you mean going from 100th percentile to 99.95th percentile in national rankings. There are over 25,000 public high schools in America. They are 14th based on the arbitrary criteria of one random magazine, and you think that's the bottom? These are still the best and brightest kids in the entire region, and if a kid got on who isn't a complete genius in math, but he/she is great at math and can actually do something socially - that's a win in my book.

That kid took a more deserving kid’s spot.

What do you mean by deserving? If you think a kid is going to get everything in life because he took a multiple choice exam, you're in for a rude awakening. There are other skills besides rote memorization. In fact, most life skills do not mirror test taking. The essays are the best thing that happened to this school. If a kid can't articulate themself and show some well-roundedness - they are not more deserving.

I dont think a remedial math student should be at a school like TJ. We can agree to disagree.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

I’m not that pp and don’t necessarily believe the pp but why would you accuse that pp of claiming to be so many people?

I ask because someone upthread accused me of doing something similar. I admit to responding several times on this thread but I’m not trying to pretend to be different people. I’m responding to different responses.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

I’m not that pp and don’t necessarily believe the pp but why would you accuse that pp of claiming to be so many people?

I ask because someone upthread accused me of doing something similar. I admit to responding several times on this thread but I’m not trying to pretend to be different people. I’m responding to different responses.

I hope you get treatment. This kind of behavior never ends well.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

I’m not that pp and don’t necessarily believe the pp but why would you accuse that pp of claiming to be so many people?

I ask because someone upthread accused me of doing something similar. I admit to responding several times on this thread but I’m not trying to pretend to be different people. I’m responding to different responses.

I hope you get treatment. This kind of behavior never ends well.

Treatment for what? For being bothered by racism towards my race?

I was very interested when the admissions policy was changed and now also interested in the results. I was also interested in the Supreme Court case about college admissions and race. These topics impact my children.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

I’m not that pp and don’t necessarily believe the pp but why would you accuse that pp of claiming to be so many people?

I ask because someone upthread accused me of doing something similar. I admit to responding several times on this thread but I’m not trying to pretend to be different people. I’m responding to different responses.

I hope you get treatment. This kind of behavior never ends well.

Treatment for what? For being bothered by racism towards my race?

I was very interested when the admissions policy was changed and now also interested in the results. I was also interested in the Supreme Court case about college admissions and race. These topics impact my children.

You appear to be struggling with issues related to your identity, self-esteem, or mental health. You claim to be an Asian TJ Alumni, but hold grudge against all Asian parents and their students at TJ. It appears you are on this forum with intent of showing your hate towards people of your own race, making demeaning comments about Asians, and going to great lengths to put down and insult Asian students. Maybe you are caught up into proving to others you support a cause but feel compelled to demonstrate it publicly how much you dont care about people of your own Asian race, and do so by posting anti-Asian messages here.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm happy TJ dropped to 14. I hope it drops out of the top 50 next year and expect it will. This school is a bastion of elitism and colonial oppression. I was a key player in the admissions policy change and the drop in the standings was deliberate and intentional and I'm happy about it.

yeah right. you post as multiple posters, you claim to be a tj alumni, claim to be Asian going through identity crisis, lie about having kids in tj, make up posts with all sorts of lies, repeat non existent test buying kid, post anti-asian remarks, etc... why would anyone in their right mind trust you?

I’m not that pp and don’t necessarily believe the pp but why would you accuse that pp of claiming to be so many people?

I ask because someone upthread accused me of doing something similar. I admit to responding several times on this thread but I’m not trying to pretend to be different people. I’m responding to different responses.

I hope you get treatment. This kind of behavior never ends well.

Treatment for what? For being bothered by racism towards my race?

I was very interested when the admissions policy was changed and now also interested in the results. I was also interested in the Supreme Court case about college admissions and race. These topics impact my children.

You appear to be struggling with issues related to your identity, self-esteem, or mental health. You claim to be an Asian TJ Alumni, but hold grudge against all Asian parents and their students at TJ. It appears you are on this forum with intent of showing your hate towards people of your own race, making demeaning comments about Asians, and going to great lengths to put down and insult Asian students. Maybe you are caught up into proving to others you support a cause but feel compelled to demonstrate it publicly how much you dont care about people of your own Asian race, and do so by posting anti-Asian messages here.

You are confusing me with someone else.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Overrated. Test prep and anything to gain the system for admission does not do well in careers. Data shows this.

Show me your data or stop the BS. Top colleges saw their mistake in dropping test scores and have resumed using SAT. Expect TJ’s ranking to fall further next year.