USC and Columbia Protests

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Anonymous wrote:One thing to keep in mind, for perspective, is that a vast majority of college students are likely to have views that are quite different from the protestors.

I have a kid at one of the Ivies where the protests are occurring. According to him, none among his large group of friends and anyone else he knows personally would dream of join these protestors, who they see as the radical types - a tiny but loud and habitually aggrieved minority on campus who happen to protest a lot and take extreme positions on every issue. It's also common knowledge that the protests include a large number of outside agitators, especially if the campus is in a big city.

My son says that he would join a peace vigil, as he and his friends did the day after Oct 7. He also thinks if there were a gathering of students where they clearly call for peace on all sides - Israel to stop bombing, Hamas to release all the hostages, and both sides to pledge a commitment to co-existence and take steps toward that, he and all his friends would join. To be clear, these are mostly liberals and moderates, not Trumpies. They just might be the silent majority who want the war to end, but do not blame one side for it exclusively and are disgusted by Hamas and the Israeli far-right including Bibi.

They also think it's genuinely asinine to ask universities to stop academic partnerships with Israeli universities, which includes research on things that are important for human progress. One of his pals, who has been to one of these universities for research in an area of medical science, thinks that demand just by itself removes any claim to seriousness of these protests. This student also points out that the universities are the bastions of liberal and progressive movements in Israel, and students there would find it demoralizing that the so-called "left" here is screaming for their colleges to sever connections with them.

This is great and all, but I’ve never seen a single person not already irrevocably committed to Israel’s interests playing the “I’m disgusted with Bono, too!” card.

It would be nice if people disclosed their obvious bias, that’s all. Nobody neutral or opposed to the outrageous ethos of Zionism feels the way your son and his friends appear to. Neutral people, insofar as they are also civilized, want a ceasefire now, and without condition. Those opposed to the harm caused by Zionism obviously feel the same way.

It’s only those who are already elbow deep in support for Israel who think it’s cute to argue over conditions to a ceasefire while innocent women and children are dying every single day.

Well, then, you will have to take the position that the majority of Americans disagree with you. Your position is both polarized and radical, and most Americans don’t agree.

The reality is that even many Americans who want to cut support for Israel entirely don’t really have too much problem with Israel responding to Oct. 7th. Arguing that Israel shouldn’t respond at all to Oct. 7th just isn’t a very strongly held position outside of radical progressive circles.

Who said anything about not responding at all? What a straw man pile of garbage.

That seems to be the position held by progressives at this point. I’ve never hear a clear elucidation of what they view a permitted response to be.

I’ve never argued that Israel should have been restrained from responding at all.

However, the extent and depth to which they have sunk in responding is so far past acceptable to humanity at this point, I’d have a hard time establishing a limit to what YOU should be expecting by way of response from Palestinians after the past nearly seven months of clearly genocidal actions taken by Israel.

Honestly, I would have a hard time sleeping at night or sending my child out into the world unaccompanied after what Israel has done. It was well past bad enough, the past 100+ years of Zionist terrorism. But the past seven months will lead to a whole new level of problems down the road. And I suppose that’s anticipated and welcomed by Bibi, Joe and our defense contractors.

What’s in store for your kids:

The imperial boomerang or Foucault's boomerang is the thesis that governments that develop repressive techniques to control colonial territories will eventually deploy those same techniques domestically against their own citizens.

The US is cannibalizing itself, chewing on its youngest and brightest.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing to keep in mind, for perspective, is that a vast majority of college students are likely to have views that are quite different from the protestors.

I have a kid at one of the Ivies where the protests are occurring. According to him, none among his large group of friends and anyone else he knows personally would dream of join these protestors, who they see as the radical types - a tiny but loud and habitually aggrieved minority on campus who happen to protest a lot and take extreme positions on every issue. It's also common knowledge that the protests include a large number of outside agitators, especially if the campus is in a big city.

My son says that he would join a peace vigil, as he and his friends did the day after Oct 7. He also thinks if there were a gathering of students where they clearly call for peace on all sides - Israel to stop bombing, Hamas to release all the hostages, and both sides to pledge a commitment to co-existence and take steps toward that, he and all his friends would join. To be clear, these are mostly liberals and moderates, not Trumpies. They just might be the silent majority who want the war to end, but do not blame one side for it exclusively and are disgusted by Hamas and the Israeli far-right including Bibi.

They also think it's genuinely asinine to ask universities to stop academic partnerships with Israeli universities, which includes research on things that are important for human progress. One of his pals, who has been to one of these universities for research in an area of medical science, thinks that demand just by itself removes any claim to seriousness of these protests. This student also points out that the universities are the bastions of liberal and progressive movements in Israel, and students there would find it demoralizing that the so-called "left" here is screaming for their colleges to sever connections with them.

This is great and all, but I’ve never seen a single person not already irrevocably committed to Israel’s interests playing the “I’m disgusted with Bono, too!” card.

It would be nice if people disclosed their obvious bias, that’s all. Nobody neutral or opposed to the outrageous ethos of Zionism feels the way your son and his friends appear to. Neutral people, insofar as they are also civilized, want a ceasefire now, and without condition. Those opposed to the harm caused by Zionism obviously feel the same way.

It’s only those who are already elbow deep in support for Israel who think it’s cute to argue over conditions to a ceasefire while innocent women and children are dying every single day.

Well, then, you will have to take the position that the majority of Americans disagree with you. Your position is both polarized and radical, and most Americans don’t agree.

The reality is that even many Americans who want to cut support for Israel entirely don’t really have too much problem with Israel responding to Oct. 7th. Arguing that Israel shouldn’t respond at all to Oct. 7th just isn’t a very strongly held position outside of radical progressive circles.

Who said anything about not responding at all? What a straw man pile of garbage.

That seems to be the position held by progressives at this point. I’ve never hear a clear elucidation of what they view a permitted response to be.

I’ve never argued that Israel should have been restrained from responding at all.

However, the extent and depth to which they have sunk in responding is so far past acceptable to humanity at this point, I’d have a hard time establishing a limit to what YOU should be expecting by way of response from Palestinians after the past nearly seven months of clearly genocidal actions taken by Israel.

Honestly, I would have a hard time sleeping at night or sending my child out into the world unaccompanied after what Israel has done. It was well past bad enough, the past 100+ years of Zionist terrorism. But the past seven months will lead to a whole new level of problems down the road. And I suppose that’s anticipated and welcomed by Bibi, Joe and our defense contractors.

Dude, I’m not defending Israel. I’m just saying that your position is extreme and generally not supported by Americans outside of the extreme left. And that’s why these protests aren’t resonating widely.

DP

What part is extreme?

Expecting Israel to act like a nation instead of like a hit squad?

Please, regale us with the extreme part of that post. I eagerly await a reply!

The demand for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire (eg no discussion of or consideration of the hostages) is extreme. PP is taking the position that if you do not agree with that position, you should not go outside or something. I’m sorry, but that is just nuts.

The entire world, save Israel and Uncle Sam, is calling for an unconditional ceasefire! Are you literally insane?

Is the Pope extreme now, too?

Wtf is going on? It’s insanity how this is being treated like the people suffering are the sane people with control over the hostages? Again, are you literally insane to expect a return of the hostages, held by an armed group, as the price to be paid by innocent civilians being blown apart every day?

Israel does not care about the hostages. It revived the Hannibal doctrine and tried to kill as many as it could while they were being taken into Gaza.

It rejected a hostage release in exchange for no Gaza ground invasion.

It indiscriminately bombed and flattened Gaza, rendering the hostages lives meaningless.

The hostages are nothing more than a useful piece of propaganda to these butchers. To Israel, dead Jews are more valuable than alive ones.

Yeah, you understand that. So do I. So does the rest of the civilized world.

But that’s not stopping the Israeli propagandists from promoting this farce that the hostages release is what’s holding back a ceasefire.

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Anonymous wrote:One thing to keep in mind, for perspective, is that a vast majority of college students are likely to have views that are quite different from the protestors.

I have a kid at one of the Ivies where the protests are occurring. According to him, none among his large group of friends and anyone else he knows personally would dream of join these protestors, who they see as the radical types - a tiny but loud and habitually aggrieved minority on campus who happen to protest a lot and take extreme positions on every issue. It's also common knowledge that the protests include a large number of outside agitators, especially if the campus is in a big city.

My son says that he would join a peace vigil, as he and his friends did the day after Oct 7. He also thinks if there were a gathering of students where they clearly call for peace on all sides - Israel to stop bombing, Hamas to release all the hostages, and both sides to pledge a commitment to co-existence and take steps toward that, he and all his friends would join. To be clear, these are mostly liberals and moderates, not Trumpies. They just might be the silent majority who want the war to end, but do not blame one side for it exclusively and are disgusted by Hamas and the Israeli far-right including Bibi.

They also think it's genuinely asinine to ask universities to stop academic partnerships with Israeli universities, which includes research on things that are important for human progress. One of his pals, who has been to one of these universities for research in an area of medical science, thinks that demand just by itself removes any claim to seriousness of these protests. This student also points out that the universities are the bastions of liberal and progressive movements in Israel, and students there would find it demoralizing that the so-called "left" here is screaming for their colleges to sever connections with them.

This is great and all, but I’ve never seen a single person not already irrevocably committed to Israel’s interests playing the “I’m disgusted with Bono, too!” card.

It would be nice if people disclosed their obvious bias, that’s all. Nobody neutral or opposed to the outrageous ethos of Zionism feels the way your son and his friends appear to. Neutral people, insofar as they are also civilized, want a ceasefire now, and without condition. Those opposed to the harm caused by Zionism obviously feel the same way.

It’s only those who are already elbow deep in support for Israel who think it’s cute to argue over conditions to a ceasefire while innocent women and children are dying every single day.

Well, then, you will have to take the position that the majority of Americans disagree with you. Your position is both polarized and radical, and most Americans don’t agree.

The reality is that even many Americans who want to cut support for Israel entirely don’t really have too much problem with Israel responding to Oct. 7th. Arguing that Israel shouldn’t respond at all to Oct. 7th just isn’t a very strongly held position outside of radical progressive circles.

Who said anything about not responding at all? What a straw man pile of garbage.

That seems to be the position held by progressives at this point. I’ve never hear a clear elucidation of what they view a permitted response to be.

I’ve never argued that Israel should have been restrained from responding at all.

However, the extent and depth to which they have sunk in responding is so far past acceptable to humanity at this point, I’d have a hard time establishing a limit to what YOU should be expecting by way of response from Palestinians after the past nearly seven months of clearly genocidal actions taken by Israel.

Honestly, I would have a hard time sleeping at night or sending my child out into the world unaccompanied after what Israel has done. It was well past bad enough, the past 100+ years of Zionist terrorism. But the past seven months will lead to a whole new level of problems down the road. And I suppose that’s anticipated and welcomed by Bibi, Joe and our defense contractors.

Dude, I’m not defending Israel. I’m just saying that your position is extreme and generally not supported by Americans outside of the extreme left. And that’s why these protests aren’t resonating widely.

DP

What part is extreme?

Expecting Israel to act like a nation instead of like a hit squad?

Please, regale us with the extreme part of that post. I eagerly await a reply!

The demand for an immediate and unconditional ceasefire (eg no discussion of or consideration of the hostages) is extreme. PP is taking the position that if you do not agree with that position, you should not go outside or something. I’m sorry, but that is just nuts.

The entire world, save Israel and Uncle Sam, is calling for an unconditional ceasefire! Are you literally insane?

Is the Pope extreme now, too?

Wtf is going on? It’s insanity how this is being treated like the people suffering are the sane people with control over the hostages? Again, are you literally insane to expect a return of the hostages, held by an armed group, as the price to be paid by innocent civilians being blown apart every day?

Israel does not care about the hostages. It revived the Hannibal doctrine and tried to kill as many as it could while they were being taken into Gaza.

It rejected a hostage release in exchange for no Gaza ground invasion.

It indiscriminately bombed and flattened Gaza, rendering the hostages lives meaningless.

The hostages are nothing more than a useful piece of propaganda to these butchers. To Israel, dead Jews are more valuable than alive ones.

Yeah, you understand that. So do I. So does the rest of the civilized world.

But that’s not stopping the Israeli propagandists from promoting this farce that the hostages release is what’s holding back a ceasefire.

And the latest farce is the call for Hamas to release to hostages for a “prolong ceasefire”. The hostages are Hamas’ only bargaining chip. Why would they release them for a temporary ceasefire with no long term assurances??

Hamas has publicly stated that they would convert to a solely political group (ie end all militant activities) if the Palestinians were granted a country along the 1967 borders.

So in my view it’s Israel - not Hamas - holding up peace.

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Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

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Absolutely disgusting that Jewish students are being denied their education simply because of their religious beliefs.

As a Jewish person, and as someone with many Jewish friends, we are all so scared right now with the aggressive, at times violent, protests calling for the dissolution of Israel “from the river to the sea,” and often celebrating Hamas and other terrorist organizations openly.

We, as a nation, need to set a reasonable line. Most of these kids are just college students who want to better their lives. They do not deserve to be screamed at and called a “Zionist” because they believe Israel has the right to exist, or to be told that their cousin is committing genocide because they are proudly serving in the IDF. These colleges need to figure out how they can respect student protesters’ rights while also protecting their Jewish students who have the exact same rights to participate in their educational services as any other student, without feeling like they are risking their lives every time they are walking into campus.

Let’s be real. These kids are not risking their lives for walking around on campus. It’s wild to even suggest that. If they are being verbally harassed, that’s not cool but I have not heard of one person who has been in legitimate physical danger where they could have lost their lives. When people are literally being slaughtered in Gaza and are so very unsafe , this centering is so grotesque and incredibly narcissistic.

"Zionists don't deserve to live... Be grateful that I'm not just going out and murdering Zionists."

-Khymani James

Spokesperson for Columbia’s anti-Israel student group Apartheid Divest

Let's get real: if these protesters were protesting against DEI and were talking about killing URMs and meeting with violent white power organizations (as Columbia students met with a PFLP terrorist)?

The left would be FLIPPING OUT. And rightly so.

Time to look in the mirror.

If you’re quoting a very small minority of the protestors, try harder. People spew crazy crap all the time and it doesn’t make other people physically UNSAFE. Let’s get real.

DP. Try addressing what the PP said. If these threats had been made against any other group, you’d be outraged. But since he’s “only” threatening Jews, you’re a-ok with it. We all see how none of you have condemned this terrorist.

Zionists are not the same as Jews.

DP. Your hair-splitting doesn't matter. What you don't seem to grasp is that there are many of us without a dog in this fight who have long been angry about Jewish settlements, who loathe Netanyahu, who wish someone could force all these idiots to agree to a two-state solution and get the Israeli far-right and Hamas rot in hell. We also would never ever in a million years question Israel's right to exist. We find he chants of "From the river to the sea, Palestine shall be free" horrifying (oh and by the way, we're liberal).

This Khymani James person who has repeatedly said he would be happy to kill Zionists is an attention seeker with a long term plan of running for Congress. Hopefully this will be the nail in the coffin of his political aspirations

+1, agree with all of this. I also think James should be suspended or expelled; Columbia students deserve to have a campus free of people calling for their death.

He just got expelled. Good riddance.

He was banished from the campus. I hope that means expelled.

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Exactly. The word the NYT is using is so obtuse. So he can take his classes that have all been moved o line anyway because of his actions? Seems lame. He needs to be expelled.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

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Anonymous wrote:Did you see Emory university in Atlanta? Brutal. Is this overreaction? Looks that way to me.
But whatever your politics, some advice:
DO NOT try to interfere with officers making an arrest
and if you did (as the professor says) “act impulsively and poke an officer on the head”
you have a RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT…. DO NOT confess on camera….This professor isn’t very smart…

https://youtu.be/L5t5ldOX...ure=shared

+1

Well worth watching for a primer on how NOT to behave.

Interfere with an officer making an arrest.

Slap that officer on the head.

Refuse police commands.

Wet your pants.

Confess on camera.

Truly remarkable idiocy.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

Not denying anything. How about you, though? Denying every reliable source out there, including your own IDF, that over 20x the number massacred on 10/7 have been massacred in Gaza.

But they don’t count, right? So that would mean that YOU are denying that massacre, right? Or blaming it on anyone other than the people who literally pulled the triggers and launched the bombs, issued the orders to bomb schools and hospitals and infrastructure and homes and places of worship, etc.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

Well, I would say there was a pretty sizable massacre of Israelis on October 7th but I am guessing you deny that.

Not denying anything. How about you, though? Denying every reliable source out there, including your own IDF, that over 20x the number massacred on 10/7 have been massacred in Gaza.

But they don’t count, right? So that would mean that YOU are denying that massacre, right? Or blaming it on anyone other than the people who literally pulled the triggers and launched the bombs, issued the orders to bomb schools and hospitals and infrastructure and homes and places of worship, etc.

Man. You are so crazy. My own IDF? Wtf. Do you honestly believe that those of us who think these protesters are basically wealthy spoiled brats are all Israeli or something? You are delusional, though not really moving me from my position about who the protestors are.

You are doing a bang-up job getting Trump elected, though. I will give you that.

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas is a terrorist group that calls for the elimination of Israel. Netanyahu and his far right coalition are committing atrocities in Gaza. Both can be true at the same time. Both Hamas and Netanyahu have to go. It seems to me most Israelis want Netanyahu out. Also when a student holds a “protest” sign that says “Resist by any means necessary,” they are supporting the massacre of Israelis and that is unacceptable.

You ALMOST had it until the last sentence. Israel is the only party to this conflict in control. The so-called threat of a massacre of Israelis is the most outlandish nonsense ever, completely unrealistic and you know it. It is a distraction from the fact that ISRAEL HAS NO INCENTIVE TO CREATE PEACE WITH ANYONE AS LONG AS THEY HAFR UNCONDITIONAL U.S. SUPPORT.

I yelled that in case you’re hard of hearing. You’re welcome.

But Israelis were massacred, back on Oct 7, no? So it’s actually realistic — and actually happened within the last year. Do you mean the annihilation of ALL Israelis is unrealistic and non sensical?

Oh, so you’re arguing that the killing of almost exactly 1/100th of 1% of Israeli non-combatants is a massacre, but the killing of over 1% of Palestinian non-combatants in Gaza, not to mention the 80% who are now unhoused, the tens of thousands suffering from serious injury, and the hundreds of thousands living in famine … what is that? Is that enough to equate to a massacre too, bearing in mind (I’m assuming) that you don’t conceal the fact that you hold Jewish life in higher regard than non-Jewish life?

Or is that just, queue the propaganda, “no fault of Israel’s”?

Oh man, honestly I was just trying to understand your statement that a Jewish massacre would be impossible. I just looked up the dictionary definition of massacre, and yes, I believe Oct 7 was a massacre.

I can see you are passionate but you are not able to have a civil conversation. Instead, you accuse me of valuing Israeli life over Palestinian life… wtf man. That’s messed up. Recognizing that Israelis got slaughtered on Oct 7 doesn’t mean I hate Palestinians. Take a breath my dude.

Just for the record I think what Israel is doing to Palestinians is absolutely horrific.

I think the PP you are responding to is basically crazy.