7/24/23 Trial of Usman Shahid -- driver who killed two Oakton teens

[Anonymous]

So where is Usman Shahid now? Still in Fairfax county jail?

[Anonymous]

Glad to hear they took the trash out, wish it stayed away permanently. Hopefully his life once released lacks fulfillment. The parents of those girls will suffer for the rest of their life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

None of this would have prevented the deaths caused by Shahid going 81. Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!

Did you respond to the wrong person? You’re aggressively responding to someone that said Shahid was the issue.

Sounded like they were adding on to your post.

And adding on... The changes to the intersection wouldn't have stopped Shahid from speeding up to beat a yellow light.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

None of this would have prevented the deaths caused by Shahid going 81. Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!

I think he would have slowed down because he wouldn’t want his parents to receive a ticket in the mail.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So where is Usman Shahid now? Still in Fairfax county jail?

There is a website called VINELink and you can by name and state and it will tell you if that person is in jail, and which one.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

None of this would have prevented the deaths caused by Shahid going 81. Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!

Did you respond to the wrong person? You’re aggressively responding to someone that said Shahid was the issue.

Sounded like they were adding on to your post.

And adding on... The changes to the intersection wouldn't have stopped Shahid from speeding up to beat a yellow light.

It wasn’t my post. “Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!” isn’t adding on. It was an argument appropriate for the first poster that tried to blame the intersection.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

In Shahid’s case, no. But that intersection has been an issue for years. And looks like this terrible accident led to some marginal improvements.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

None of this would have prevented the deaths caused by Shahid going 81. Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!

I think he would have slowed down because he wouldn’t want his parents to receive a ticket in the mail.

Nah!! I’ve seen many drivers accelerate to cross into the intersection before the light turns red.

[Anonymous]

He want last in prison. He thinks he got off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

In Shahid’s case, no. But that intersection has been an issue for years. And looks like this terrible accident led to some marginal improvements.

The only design problem with intersections around here is their existence. "Oh, it turned yellow, I wonder if I could beat the light?" "It hasn't been red that long."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So where is Usman Shahid now? Still in Fairfax county jail?

He is currently in jail where he gets 2 days credit for every 1 day served. He is awaiting formal sentencing from the Judge in July, once sentenced, the Department of Corrections will get a pick up order, it usually takes around 12 months for DOC to actually pick up inmates (due to overcrowding) once picked up he will go to a minimum security facility and serve the rest of his sentence at 85%. Long story short, he will likely serve a little over 2 years and be back home. Our justice system is trash!!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So where is Usman Shahid now? Still in Fairfax county jail?

He is currently in jail where he gets 2 days credit for every 1 day served. He is awaiting formal sentencing from the Judge in July, once sentenced, the Department of Corrections will get a pick up order, it usually takes around 12 months for DOC to actually pick up inmates (due to overcrowding) once picked up he will go to a minimum security facility and serve the rest of his sentence at 85%. Long story short, he will likely serve a little over 2 years and be back home. Our justice system is trash!!!

Hard to fault the system when a jury chose this sentence. Too many people favor leniency for vehicular homicide. My hope is that the parents are held liable civilly for enabling this to happen, but that could be an uphill battle.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He want last in prison. He thinks he got off.

I think he will be fine in prison. His parents will upload money into his commissary account, he will be able to purchase items and "buy off" any problematic inmates. He seems low key - didn't get in any trouble or cause problems while awaiting trial.

He would've done less time had he just pled guilty and been out before his 21st birthday. Which is wild when you think about the fact that he killed two kids.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I'm outraged by the ridiculously low jail time. It sends the wrong message. He can start his life again at 24. The girls are dead forever.

Juries are ridiculously lenient with drivers who kill pedestrians and cyclists, as long as the driver was not DUI. Juries sympathize a lot with drivers "who made a mistake" because they can envision themselves making the same mistake. It's an issue.

Catherine Lyon - drunk driving in SoMD and got only 3 years in jail for killing a married couple riding a tandem bicycle
https://www.somdnews.com/breaking/huntingtown-woman-gets-years-for-fatal-october-crash-with-tandem/article_a7038ee8-529b-5d23-9f8d-5785a5e6fd47.html

Whitney Decesaris - minivan driver who killed a cyclist in Anne Arundel county while trying to overtake the cyclist on a hill, grand jury refused to indict
https://www.cbsnews.com/baltimore/news/no-criminal-charges-for-driver-in-bicyclist-crash-that-killed-annapolis-hs-track-coach/
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dr-gridlock/wp/2013/11/22/grand-jury-traffic-tickets-suffice-in-case-of-dead-cyclist/

But in your first example, the driver WAS driving under the influence. She had consumed the equivalent of 13 shot glasses of hard liquor. I know the case, and she only served three years. You would think that someone who was so impaired by alcohol and killed two people would’ve gotten more than three years.

The point still stands that juries will often sympathize more with the surviving driver who "made a mistake" - even if drunk driving - than the victims who are not able to advocate for themselves.

It's a major issue in the U.S. with its car-based culture where nearly everyone has to drive to get around. Jurors themselves have likely driven drunk/buzzed at some point in their lives and are thankful that they didn't get caught or get in an accident. Juries are incredibly biased when it comes to charges stemming from a vehicular death.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like they are finally addressing the issues at this intersection

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/northern-virginia/speed-camera-installed-near-site-of-2022-fatal-high-school-pedestrian-crash/3604230

Let’s not be fooled that the design of the intersection caused this tragedy. Usman Shahid is solely responsible for the deaths of two girls, the injuries of a third, and the trauma inflicted on the witnesses and families.

None of this would have prevented the deaths caused by Shahid going 81. Do you think he would have slowed down because there was a sign or camera? Of course not, he was lawless as he didn’t even have a license and then drove 81!

I think he would have slowed down because he wouldn’t want his parents to receive a ticket in the mail.

Nah!! I’ve seen many drivers accelerate to cross into the intersection before the light turns red.

Wasn’t he very concerned about his parents finding out about the crash? May have been enough of a deterrent. Certainly would be for many people.