Basketball hoop in street

[Anonymous]

Playing basketball in a hoop in the street is just dumb. You can’t get a real game going because you have to worry about traffic, and your errant shot might bang up a neighbors car. I don’t recall ever hearing about a college or NBA player bragging about how much they practiced in the hoop in the street. People go to parks, community centers, and school courts to build their skills. And there are tons of all of those in Arlington such that a basketball court is probably just a few blocks away for nearly everyone. Kids should focus and become better on a real court not some dopey hoop precariously placed in the middle of a street.

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Anonymous wrote:Someone on my street does this despite there being a public elementary school with a half court and hoop 1 block away.

I bet the school has a parking lot, too, yet people keep parking their personal vehicles right in the street. SMDH.

Cars belong in street. Street parking and parking lots are not bad things. Basketball hoops that get in the way of parking are a nuisance. You may not like any if this, but you cannot order or trick others into agreeing with you.

What if I put the basketball hoop in my driveway and make sure to always park my car in the street instead? Will that clear the way for more street parking?

You know the answer tell us, since this is meant to be your instruction to us.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

Yes, that is the status quo. You can believe that you do not like the status quo and others are free to be happy with status quo (including thinking that cars and parking are not evil).

If the status quo ain’t the actual law, then Too bad, so sad. Times change. Or do you still want segregated neighborhoods, too?

Seriously, get over yourself. The kids just want to shoot hoops.

The new world order is everyone just does what they want? Well fine, I (this isn't OP, another person BTW) don't want the hoop in front of my house so I can just take it and thow it away.

No --- because then they will throw baseballs and rocks through your windows. Talk to them.

Talk to them--so we can have a discussion of rhetorical questions to force the other side to feel stupid and finally realize they are wrong, as is the pattern here? That doesn't work. In the new world order, no excuses (which the rhetorical questions are when you think about it), just do what you want. I'll take the hoop away, they will throw rocks, so what?

Here’s a question that is not rhetorical (since rhetorical questions clearly trigger you):

Why does the presence of a basketball hoop in a certain spot on the public street (rather than a random car) bother you so much? How does it affect your life?

(Sorry, that’s two questions.)

I don't care about your opinion of my opinion, so I have no need or desire to answer your question. You just don't get it--no one has to agree with you, they do not need to explain why.

Also, I don't know what triggered means. Does it mean angry? No, I am not angry. Does it mean I am not going along with your okey doke and not saying yeah, you got me, I didn't know what I was thinking till you set me straight? Well then call me triggered. Call me Karen too.

I don’t need to call you any names. You’re actually doing a bang up job calling yourself out in every post you make, while claiming you don’t recognize or understand the various points that YOU so clearly lay out. It’s truly bizarre behavior.

This post is incoherent. A person calls themselves out in a post? Yes, a person posting is by default saying yes I am posting here today in DCUM. Not shocking--a person posting would not claim to be a monkey or lizard.

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It is illegal to do. The person doing it is a criminal.

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It is illegal. Sometimes illegal is irrelevant. Irrelevant to everyday life. You deal with it as a reasonable person - you talk to others. You're part of a community. Op sees no value in talking with her neighbors or being part of a community.

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Anonymous wrote:It is illegal. Sometimes illegal is irrelevant. Irrelevant to everyday life. You deal with it as a reasonable person - you talk to others. You're part of a community. Op sees no value in talking with her neighbors or being part of a community.

You're making a lot of assumptions all from a question about whether it's legal or not. Wouldn't you want to know the answer before raising this with an unreasonable neighbor?

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

OP here. It does get used. And I know this because I can hear it. But often not by the kids of the family that put it there. And not by the kids in the house they put it in front of either.

No where have you mentioned talking to the neighbor whose house it is in front of. So it’s very likely the hoop owners asked the hoop hosters if they could place the hoop in front of their house — I’m assuming there is some difference in grade or traffic flow or whatnot thst makes sense. You have no idea, just upset that a hoop is on the street.

It’s getting used, apparently by the whole community (which is often the intent) which is nice for some people, clearly not for you. Do you have kids?

The reason it’s on the street is two fold — you said there is limited parking, which means the owners likely want to keep their drive way free to park because the street can be limited. The basketball does consume some parking space area but much less than a car so may not really impact capacity greatly but if the street is always full, you might get the county to move it. Just take regular photos.

But they put it on public land for the public to use, so you really need to show harm to community.

Is this Lyon Village? What else has such limited parking with SFH?

But you are unlikely to prevail here, these are all over Arlington and this one gets used.

Wow, lots of strong feelings about b-ball hoops! Sure there are some benefits to a b-ball hoop in the street (exercise, kids enjoyment, can be shared). But there are also downsides (takes up parking, noise, can damage cars, unsafe).

The problem is that by putting their b-ball hoop in the street in front of another's house without permission, b-ball hoop owner gets all the benefits and passes all the problems onto their neighbor. Who thinks that's ok and why?

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My old house I had an idiot ahole jerk of a neighbor put a hoop in Street in front of house taking up a spot and we did not live on dead end it was a cut through street for school and train.

He lived exactly 4 houses from school basketball courts. That was not annoying part. Second he had a 100-120 plot and had room for in backyard but did not want it in his backyard

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People are pushy. My summer place the tenants next door started using my gas grill to BBQ.

I only realized as we have a winter tenant and I scrubbed BBQ and even put grills in my dishwasher for winter tenant and next week during my final check was dirty.

Neighbors saw them and they had balls to even stay on deck to eat. Some neighbors are horrible.

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Anonymous wrote:My old house I had an idiot ahole jerk of a neighbor put a hoop in Street in front of house taking up a spot and we did not live on dead end it was a cut through street for school and train.

He lived exactly 4 houses from school basketball courts. That was not annoying part. Second he had a 100-120 plot and had room for in backyard but did not want it in his backyard

In front of his house or someone else's house?

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Anonymous wrote:People are pushy. My summer place the tenants next door started using my gas grill to BBQ.

I only realized as we have a winter tenant and I scrubbed BBQ and even put grills in my dishwasher for winter tenant and next week during my final check was dirty.

Neighbors saw them and they had balls to even stay on deck to eat. Some neighbors are horrible.

Oh wow, what did you do? Did you go talk to them and how did that go?

All the people who say just go talk to your neighbor have probably not had to deal with horrible entitled neighbors.

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So, I have lost track - did the OP admit that the hoop is not even in front of her house? But someone else’s?

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Anonymous wrote:This is why you walk over and talk with neighbors.

Good luck. When the neighbor is awful enough that they put the basketball hoop in front of someone else's house, that means you're probably not dealing with a thoughtful person.

That's the situation here.

- OP

Can you contact the county and ask?

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NP. before I bought a portable hoop, I called Arlington county permit office to inquire if it was legal and/or ask for permission, because I was also paying for delivery and installation. The woman I spoke with said it was ok and the county didn't require permission. She just told me the hoop should not block a sewer drain, fire hydrant or driveway.

I live on a short block with few houses and asked the neighbors who said "ok" as long as they could use the hoop too.

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I can't believe of all the things wrong in this world that people are pissed about a basketball hoop.