UVA or Uchicago for PreMed?

Anonymous
DS (ORM, Asian American) is interested in pre-med. Besides the cost, please advise us on what would work better to get admitted at the the medical school. After his undergraduate studies, he is eligible for the Military's HPSP (full tuition scholarship). We are trying to understand how opportunities differ at both institutions to be able to compete for medical seats. Thanks in advance.
Anonymous
I don’t know anything about medical school admissions. But I understand that GPA is very important. My kid is at UChicago. There is no grade inflation. It is hard to get A’s. And very smart and dedicated kids who put time into their class work walk away with B’s all the time. So if the goal is to keep your GPA high, and if med school admissions don’t understand how UChicago grades (like PhD programs do), it might not be the best choice.
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Anonymous
It is less about the specific college attended than you seem to think. Medical admissions is based largely on the MCAT and the grades in the specific pre-med courses, and also on some other non-academic factors.

(Example: UVa Med School and MCV like to see med school applicants who have been -active- volunteers in their local rescue squad, for example.).

Both UVA and Chicago have a lot of smart, hard working, students trying to get into medical school. So will be competitive.
Anonymous
I would go to an easier school which is uva in this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:DS (ORM, Asian American) is interested in pre-med. Besides the cost, please advise us on what would work better to get admitted at the the medical school. After his undergraduate studies, he is eligible for the Military's HPSP (full tuition scholarship). We are trying to understand how opportunities differ at both institutions to be able to compete for medical seats. Thanks in advance.


They will both be competitive. If it were my kid I would send them to Chicago. The chance to go to a top 10 university/ivyplus is not one to pass up. Many premeds at both schools change their minds. UChicago is an elite school , world-renowned, and UVA is not that level. Outcomes for non-premeds are better. Premeds have more access to research and programs at UC due to less undergrads/less competition to work with professors. Premed GPA is taken in context: both schools have full premed advising and provide a committee letter for the med applicant which will put the GPA in context(comparison to peers and highlight difficulty of major). UChicago kids get into at least one US med schools as long as they are above the average GPA and have a strong MCAT. Some below average GPA students get in as well. The top 25% of Chicago premeds have a good chance at T50 research med schools, provided great MCAT. For UVA, I do not know if top half is good enough for any US school from there, but they do not send the same high % to T50 med schools. Like it or not, Ivy-plus(UChicago/MIT/DUKE/Stanford) are overrepresented in the T50 med schools. As long as one is a good test taker (MCAT favors those who do well on standardized tests) and puts in the effort and can be top half, UChicago opens more top-med-school doors.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It is less about the specific college attended than you seem to think. Medical admissions is based largely on the MCAT and the grades in the specific pre-med courses, and also on some other non-academic factors.

(Example: UVa Med School and MCV like to see med school applicants who have been -active- volunteers in their local rescue squad, for example.).

Both UVA and Chicago have a lot of smart, hard working, students trying to get into medical school. So will be competitive.



Agree they both have many smart kids, but GPA is always evaluated in context of the undergrad school and major/course of study. I used to serve on a T10med school adcom. Students are not punished for going to a harder school and in fact there can be a slight benefit coming out of a top tier undergrad, evaluating students with the same MCAT score.
Anonymous
Neither
Hopkins
Anonymous
“UChicago is an elite school , world-renowned, and UVA is not that level.”

I agree. If it were Chicago against a top public like Cal, UCLA, or Michigan then I would think differently.
Anonymous
Med schools for care what you think is an elite undergrad. They want people who understand medical science, from the standard premed coursework and MCAT. Feeder schools are feeder schools because they have more of the capable students choosing to enroll.
Anonymous
U Chicago has slight tendency to accept their own undergraduate students for law school with $150000.00 of a break in tuition.
If it is the same thing for medical school I would definitely pick UC.
Molecular engineering at u Chicago is very well known and can lead to med school or you can build a career with that degree.
Anonymous
VCU
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About the same


UVA has 2.5X as many undergraduate and Chicago still has more. They are not about the same.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:“UChicago is an elite school , world-renowned, and UVA is not that level.”

I agree. If it were Chicago against a top public like Cal, UCLA, or Michigan then I would think differently.


Michigan? are you serious?
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