Local Level IV?

[Anonymous]

I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

[Anonymous]

In the 2020 external review I believe they recommended local level IV everywhere and it's being expanded.

But be careful what you wish for, because in many places it's being implemented not as a separate class, but as ability groups within a class. Is that the experience you want for your child? One teacher having to teach regular standards to most of the class and advanced standards to 8 or so kids? Or the E3 math standards being used instead of the regular FCPS advanced math standards?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

They are expanding LLIV to most ES right now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

Because you have immersion. LLV would require the school to teach 4 curriculums (immersion LLIV, immersion gen ed, non-immersion LLIV, and non-immersion gen ed)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:In the 2020 external review I believe they recommended local level IV everywhere and it's being expanded.

But be careful what you wish for, because in many places it's being implemented not as a separate class, but as ability groups within a class. Is that the experience you want for your child? One teacher having to teach regular standards to most of the class and advanced standards to 8 or so kids? Or the E3 math standards being used instead of the regular FCPS advanced math standards?

+1.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

Because you have immersion. LLV would require the school to teach 4 curriculums (immersion LLIV, immersion gen ed, non-immersion LLIV, and non-immersion gen ed)

So are they not doing this at schools with immersion?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

Because you have immersion. LLV would require the school to teach 4 curriculums (immersion LLIV, immersion gen ed, non-immersion LLIV, and non-immersion gen ed)

So are they not doing this at schools with immersion?

Several immersion schools have LL4.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have heard that our base school (Fort Hunt) doesn't have Local Level IV. Why is this available at some schools and not others and is there any effort to have it be available everywhere? What needs to be done to make that happen at the local level?

If your school doesn’t have local level IV, your child can simply choose the center. But you knew that. I’m going to guess your child didn’t get into AAP though.

[Anonymous]

Immersion schools also have LLIV, some are just adding it. Fox Mill, Japanese Immersion, added LLIV three years ago. It is a cluster model because people think it is hard to do Immersion and LLIV.

I think it is doable by putting the Immersion kids into LA and social studies with the other LIV kids. Advanced Math and Science can be their own class for LI. I know that Fox Mill separates Advanced Math into 2 classes for JI in 5th grade because there are enough JI kids placed in advanced Math. But the school went to the cluster method.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Immersion schools also have LLIV, some are just adding it. Fox Mill, Japanese Immersion, added LLIV three years ago. It is a cluster model because people think it is hard to do Immersion and LLIV.

I think it is doable by putting the Immersion kids into LA and social studies with the other LIV kids. Advanced Math and Science can be their own class for LI. I know that Fox Mill separates Advanced Math into 2 classes for JI in 5th grade because there are enough JI kids placed in advanced Math. But the school went to the cluster method.

Now try that at a school like Ft Hunt. Half the kids are failing math SOLS, but you're going to find enough kids in advanced math to teach the class both as immersion and in english?

[Anonymous]

Fort Hunt is also our base school, and it's one of ~11% of the 142 elementary schools without a local level IV:

https://www.fcps.edu/sites/default/files/media/pdf/SY2023-24AAPElementarySchools_1.pdf

This is our 7th year (and I've lost track of number of principals and interim principals) there (with a 2nd grader and 6th grader now) and every administration said they don't know how it would work for Fort Hunt.

There is advanced math in 6th grade, but that start MUCH later than most of the county. The Spanish Immersion does keep a lot of kids challenges, even kids who are Level IV qualified who choose to stay (as did a lot of my older kid's classmates), but it created inequality programs for kids who need more challenge and can't get through the level IV central committee screening for sure.

[Anonymous]

Just FYI, the AAP office got rid of the term Level IV. They don't want people to associate level of service with a number. Now it's called something like "Full Time Placement" or "Subject Specific Placement" (or something like that).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, the AAP office got rid of the term Level IV. They don't want people to associate level of service with a number. Now it's called something like "Full Time Placement" or "Subject Specific Placement" (or something like that).

Someone needs to tell FCPS

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/academic-overview/advanced-academic-programs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just FYI, the AAP office got rid of the term Level IV. They don't want people to associate level of service with a number. Now it's called something like "Full Time Placement" or "Subject Specific Placement" (or something like that).

Someone needs to tell FCPS

https://www.fcps.edu/academics/academic-overview/advanced-academic-programs

DP, and our AART told us what PP said. They are trying to move away from using "level IV" and towards "full-time program."