South Arlington. They do not pursue these sorts of things, because it's virtuous to allow this in our crappy neighborhoods. It would likely not fly in a nicer area. There are lots of weird double standards. They will enforce car tags in the north, but not the south. It's whatever. Most of my neighborhood is ok, and getting nicer. |
Is there a theoretical "optimal" % of AH?
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Could you be any more specific, without downright outing your neighborhood (unless you want to)? Because I don't see this sort of thing (paved over lot with 12 cars, 5 families sharing SFH) anywhere near us...(also South Arlington). If it is, I'd call it in in a heartbeat! I think action is spurred by the number of people calling in, not by your exact address? The more neighbors care, the better! And what are you observing about the vehicle tags? Expired decals? Or out of state tags? |
We live in S Arlington too and if we see expired tags on a car on the street we call the cops on the non emergency number. They are very responsive. Also we call about noise violations.
hCode violations get checked timely too. Download thek Arlington app take a picture submit complaint. Easy least. Works for streets and pot holes too. |
I think if you call and report something, they'll respond. But I think what PP is referring to is the sting operations that the county undertakes at doorman buildings in the north to catch tax cheats who haven't registered their cars in VA and paid personal property tax on them. Meanwhile, AH complexes have LOTS of cars w/MD tags, and nobody bats an eye. I think this is reasonable, and it doesn't bother me. What does bother me is the overflow of cars onto neighborhood streets. There's not enough parking at the complexes. Poor people drive, too, and their work trucks parked in the neighborhood make visibility much more difficult for drivers and pedestrians, including school children. And when neighbors have called to complain, the drivers are made to move, but only temporarily. A week later, they're back or some other new work truck is now parked. It's a constant battle. |
This is exactly what I was referring to about the stings in north Arlington. It doesn't bother me either, I was just kind of using it illustrate the general attitude. I don't want to out my neighborhood, but right around the corner from me there are homes housing multiple families and one of them is basically functioning as a boarding house. The county knows. Maybe I'm cynical, but I just suspect that wouldn't fly in Cherrydale, but maybe I'm just reading too much into it. At least they paved over so much of their front yards, it keeps most of the cars off the street. So, I'm not for ADU's and the like. It might be fine, but I'm really skeptical. Also I suspect it will cause a different set of problems around Yorktown. Why build a 2 million dollar McCraftsman? They can take those same lots and build triplexes for 1 million a unit. Plenty of room for a family moving from the hill. Yorktown will have many more kids, but instead of being really rich, they'll just be kinda rich. What diversity! |
Exactly. This won't make neighborhoods that have pulled up the gates more affordable. Nothing will, short of overall decline in housing prices or DC becoming less desirable due to fewer job opportunities or something. Maybe some people would allow a caregiver, or a relative, to live in an ADU. But they're not going to invite a family with a housing voucher to live in the pool house. Yeah right. But MY neighborhood, which is already has its "share" of affordable units, will be affected. SFH will be chopped up into boarding houses or small apartments. |
1) I've seen the houses with paved over front lawns with tons of cars - there are a few off Glebe Rd S, near Columbia Pike, and a few on Walter Reed Dr S, on the slope.
2) Doesn't the money from those sting operations go to the whole county? Or does it only go to the north? Though I would like to see enforcement more in the South as well. There are several barely road safe jalopies with MD tags in Barcroft/Douglas Park. |
The money goes to the entire county, but it's spent differently in different parts according to our county's priorities. The south stands to have millions poured into the reimagining of four mile run, Jennie dean park, and Shirlington road. Of course it's all talk right now. I guess I'll believe it when I see it. I understand why it feels bad to set up a sting outside Barcroft Apts. It feels gross. I get why they don't do it. But at some point people need to be responsible and follow the rules. |
I agree with this and one way to do that would be to raise the income levels that are used for affordable housing so that they are realistic to what is the middle class in this area. For example a single person should be able to make up to $75K, a couple up to $100K and a couple with children up to a $150K. Sadly, this is the reality. I recently saw an ad for an "affordable housing " project going up in NYC. The income requirements were @$75K - @$150K. In this area, we need to follow suit and make this the type of affordable housing that is being implemented. This brings in a middle class and cuts the huge and massive disparity between rich and poor. |
I think its crazy to make the AH only for people so far below the median here. I would like to see help for the other people struggling to stay here too, or at least, more mixed income. The AH blocks look horrible - no wonder no one invests in them. A mixed income building would be more attractive. I also think there's a plan to make the new townhouses over at Carver Place have a few that are for low income/moderate income families to buy. |
Interestingly enough- Arlington already does do AH for people at higher income levels. They have CAF's at 80% of the median income and 60% of the median income---- so it is not just for people living far below the median income.
https://housing.arlingtonva.us/affordable-housing/what-is-affordable/ https://housing.arlingtonva.us/income-rent-limits/ |
Yes, I think it's two units and I think this was a great development. This development allowed the former residents to profit from developers. My understanding is that many of these residents were the original or descended from the families who were displaced when the Pentagon was built, who were themselves descended from the "freedmen," or former slaves who were resettled out of Washington, D.C. Finally, they were able to participate in the largest driver of American intergenerational wealth: real estate. This is also why I take issue with concentrated AH. It's being built in majority minority communities, and disproportionately affecting minority homeowners. |
No. It's not interesting, because it's just a limit. It doesn't mean that the people living in these units are at the 80% or even 60% limit. It just means no one is over it, and they aren't. Many are below 40%. Many are around 20%. It doesn't work they way they say it does. It doesn't work they way that want it to. |
Indeed, but people in the 80% AMI and above range don't chose to live in CAF's. They'd rather have a long commute. |