2024 College Graduates, how’s the job market?

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Extremely extremely slow right now

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Nephew has a BS in biochemical engineering. No job for a year in his field. Most of his friends are working in doctor’s offices as medical receptionists for almost minimum
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Anonymous wrote:My English major was employed within a month of graduation at $74k. Truly ignorant to keep knocking liberal arts.

rank of school, type of job?

Mid-sized consulting firm. Top school.

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Anonymous wrote:One kid at Michigan, one at Wisconsin. Michigan is generally a target for everything so he's set. The other at Wisconsin, however, is struggling despite having a higher gpa.

Wisconsin is a great school, I didn't really notice a difference in academics. The problem is its very unrecognized and obscure with employers...that goes from Mckinsey to a gas station.

Is this causing resentment between the two?

I thought wisco was a target for ag/food related stuff - Cargill, Archer Daniels Midland, cpg firms like Pepsi, Nestle, Hershey, Mondelez, Coca-cola etc

Somewhat, although Mich kid feels bad because he knows Wisconsin is good...His favorite history professor did a PHD there. The jobs in Wisconsin vs Michigan itself are totally different. For example, PwC has an office in Detroit, so their representatives took a 30 min drive to Ann Arbor and were very eager to hire. With Wisc, my kid said you could tell what little big name employers did come made an effort to communicate the fact they went out of their way to get to Madison and were much more strict with even giving interviews. Google and Amazon were like that. The vast majority of other jobs in Wisconsin are farming. Just as advice to the other DC's looking at Wisconsin for their kid.

What about Northwestern Mutual and Epic?

Good but the companies are too small. Both NW Mutual and Epic were founded by Wisconsin alumni, but the university can't just keep generating all the jobs for the state. Same thing with law, Foley and Lardner naming partners were Wisconsin alumni. Rather, you need need the large diverse range of industries Michigan has. General Motors and Ford, for example, are huge employers (not generated by Univ of Michigan) who employ thousands of Michigan engineering and Law students. McKinsey and PwC, Ernst and Young, Bain, all have offices in Detroit. None whatsoever in Wisconsin.

What abt Chicago?! Wisconsin is closer to Chicago than Michigan…..

Chicago doesn't have enough industry to support Wisconsin/Chicago/Northwestern/Illinois all at once. NYC could, but Chicago as a city has declined tremendously in international prominence.

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Anonymous wrote:My English major was employed within a month of graduation at $74k. Truly ignorant to keep knocking liberal arts.

rank of school, type of job?

Mid-sized consulting firm. Top school.

nice - congratulations

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Job market is pretty bad right now for many different fields. Tech and management consulting have both tanked

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Anonymous wrote:One kid at Michigan, one at Wisconsin. Michigan is generally a target for everything so he's set. The other at Wisconsin, however, is struggling despite having a higher gpa.

Wisconsin is a great school, I didn't really notice a difference in academics. The problem is its very unrecognized and obscure with employers...that goes from Mckinsey to a gas station.

Is this causing resentment between the two?

I thought wisco was a target for ag/food related stuff - Cargill, Archer Daniels Midland, cpg firms like Pepsi, Nestle, Hershey, Mondelez, Coca-cola etc

Somewhat, although Mich kid feels bad because he knows Wisconsin is good...His favorite history professor did a PHD there. The jobs in Wisconsin vs Michigan itself are totally different. For example, PwC has an office in Detroit, so their representatives took a 30 min drive to Ann Arbor and were very eager to hire. With Wisc, my kid said you could tell what little big name employers did come made an effort to communicate the fact they went out of their way to get to Madison and were much more strict with even giving interviews. Google and Amazon were like that. The vast majority of other jobs in Wisconsin are farming. Just as advice to the other DC's looking at Wisconsin for their kid.

What about Northwestern Mutual and Epic?

Good but the companies are too small. Both NW Mutual and Epic were founded by Wisconsin alumni, but the university can't just keep generating all the jobs for the state. Same thing with law, Foley and Lardner naming partners were Wisconsin alumni. Rather, you need need the large diverse range of industries Michigan has. General Motors and Ford, for example, are huge employers (not generated by Univ of Michigan) who employ thousands of Michigan engineering and Law students. McKinsey and PwC, Ernst and Young, Bain, all have offices in Detroit. None whatsoever in Wisconsin.

What abt Chicago?! Wisconsin is closer to Chicago than Michigan…..

Chicago doesn't have enough industry to support Wisconsin/Chicago/Northwestern/Illinois all at once. NYC could, but Chicago as a city has declined tremendously in international prominence.

+ U. Iowa, Marquette, Depaul, Loyola, Michigan def sends a lot to Chicago, Indiana as well.

In that scrum, Wisconsin really isn't an 'edge' in terms of brand in Chicago.

Wisconsin really is skating on its prior -- and well earned -- heritage/reputation from the "Wisconsin idea".

unfortunately the economic gravity of the US has totally shifted.

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just spoke to my kid who’s about to graduate from what’s considered on this forum as a T10 LAC. He’s got something good lined up, but says there are two camps - those who went to boarding school, who all have jobs, and those who didn’t, where there’s much less success. Read into that what you will.. btw, he’s a public school kid

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Anonymous wrote:just spoke to my kid who’s about to graduate from what’s considered on this forum as a T10 LAC. He’s got something good lined up, but says there are two camps - those who went to boarding school, who all have jobs, and those who didn’t, where there’s much less success. Read into that what you will.. btw, he’s a public school kid

Middlebury ?

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My niece will graduate from Cornell with a MS degree in biomedical engineering and she is still looking for a job. It is brutal at the moment.

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Anonymous wrote:Bad for my nephew who studied computer game design. (He has been looking since 2023)

My nephew is graduating next month with a computer game design degree and is having difficulty finding a job.

Based on the advice my kid was given, one should get a CS degree and make game design a series of electives or a minor. People hiring CS really are not familiar enough with that major yet and seem to fear that it is CS light (even though it isn't).

There are very good programmers working in game design but they are poorly paid and subjected to the layoff cycles of the industry. Anyone with skill who's in it for the money, knows to look elsewhere.

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Anonymous wrote:just spoke to my kid who’s about to graduate from what’s considered on this forum as a T10 LAC. He’s got something good lined up, but says there are two camps - those who went to boarding school, who all have jobs, and those who didn’t, where there’s much less success. Read into that what you will.. btw, he’s a public school kid

the question this raises is maybe it’s better to spend the big bucks on boarding school - as those alumni REALLY will help kids who reach out - as opposed to even the best of the best with regards to alumni loyalty - Williams or Lehigh - where it’s pot luck whether or not you’ll get help. Send ur kid to Deerfield or Andover and then UMD lol

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Anonymous wrote:Especially CS major? DC wants to do cs, but we heard some bad news from friends’ kids. Don’t know pervasive?

Sucks to be from a state school right about now, since you asked.

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Anonymous wrote:One kid at Michigan, one at Wisconsin. Michigan is generally a target for everything so he's set. The other at Wisconsin, however, is struggling despite having a higher gpa.

Wisconsin is a great school, I didn't really notice a difference in academics. The problem is its very unrecognized and obscure with employers...that goes from Mckinsey to a gas station.

Is this causing resentment between the two?

I thought wisco was a target for ag/food related stuff - Cargill, Archer Daniels Midland, cpg firms like Pepsi, Nestle, Hershey, Mondelez, Coca-cola etc

Somewhat, although Mich kid feels bad because he knows Wisconsin is good...His favorite history professor did a PHD there. The jobs in Wisconsin vs Michigan itself are totally different. For example, PwC has an office in Detroit, so their representatives took a 30 min drive to Ann Arbor and were very eager to hire. With Wisc, my kid said you could tell what little big name employers did come made an effort to communicate the fact they went out of their way to get to Madison and were much more strict with even giving interviews. Google and Amazon were like that. The vast majority of other jobs in Wisconsin are farming. Just as advice to the other DC's looking at Wisconsin for their kid.

What about Northwestern Mutual and Epic?

Good but the companies are too small. Both NW Mutual and Epic were founded by Wisconsin alumni, but the university can't just keep generating all the jobs for the state. Same thing with law, Foley and Lardner naming partners were Wisconsin alumni. Rather, you need need the large diverse range of industries Michigan has. General Motors and Ford, for example, are huge employers (not generated by Univ of Michigan) who employ thousands of Michigan engineering and Law students. McKinsey and PwC, Ernst and Young, Bain, all have offices in Detroit. None whatsoever in Wisconsin.

What abt Chicago?! Wisconsin is closer to Chicago than Michigan…..

Chicago doesn't have enough industry to support Wisconsin/Chicago/Northwestern/Illinois all at once. NYC could, but Chicago as a city has declined tremendously in international prominence.

and Notre Dame.

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Anonymous wrote:Good to have CS and entrepreneurship and something soft skill (communications, English) - highly in demand if you can do all.

But the CS fanatics here have been slamming those evil distribution requirements here for years. Good luck on any of the kids knowing how to end a sentence with a period.

Learned that in pre-school.