Teacher Appreciation Week

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Our specialists neither attend these meetings nor provide coverage when people are absent.

Your specialists must be lucky. I (music teacher) cover all the time and attend 504s and IEPs.

Why are you being asked to go to 504s or IEPs? They only require the classroom teacher and an AP usually.

DP. You need a Gen Ed teacher. If the kids actual teacher can’t make it, another gen Ed teacher goes. In secondary, a kid has 7-8 teachers, any of whom legally can participate. It’s also the case sometimes that you get pulled into an IEP meeting for a kid you have never met because depending on the kid you legally have to have the case manager/sped teacher present, a Gen Ed teacher, and an EL teacher if the student is dually identified.

Obviously it is ideal if the Gen Ed teacher present is one who a) teaches the kid and b) teaches a core area that is typically the focus of their goal and accommodations, but in a pinch, a Gen Ed music teacher can go and has to if asked to legally fulfill the requirement for a Gen Ed teacher to be present. Their input isn’t going to be as helpful as a teacher who teaches the core content (sorry music teacher, but it’s true) but they can still contribute on behaviors and such.

The parent can request the meeting to be rescheduled if the core classroom teacher can’t make it.

Sure. They can legally do lots of things that they don’t always know. Most parents are just going to go ahead with the meeting when they show up and see who is attending. Not all are aware of the difference of feedback that a core vs specials teacher could give (to be fair, not all core teachers DO give valuable feedback either) and not all know that they can ask to reschedule if they’re not happy with who is attending. Sped is an incredibly labrythine system with not much transparency and general knowledge on its functions for laypeople.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait I thought we were supposed to give little gift cards as opposed to trinkets/mugs/whatever? My kids’ school polls the teachers on what their favorite stores and restaurants are and most of them write Starbucks or Dunkin. Some teachers have a class wish list too but not all. So I’ve just been picking up little Starbucks cards and putting them in a Thank You card that my kid signs. Should I not be doing this??? This is elementary so the “I wish your kid would just get off his phone” stuff doesn’t apply.

Every school does it differently. I’m sure there have been emails going out. Pay attention.

Yes there’s been tons of emails. Not sure why you think I’m not “paying attention?” The emails have the survey results with the teachers favorite stores and restaurants on them. If you can understand context clues, it was clear that my question was in regards to the salty ass people who said they don’t want a gift card, and I was questioning whether that is the norm and IF SO, what to do INSTEAD when my kids’ school pretty much literally suggests places a teacher might want a GC from.

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Anonymous wrote:Wait I thought we were supposed to give little gift cards as opposed to trinkets/mugs/whatever? My kids’ school polls the teachers on what their favorite stores and restaurants are and most of them write Starbucks or Dunkin. Some teachers have a class wish list too but not all. So I’ve just been picking up little Starbucks cards and putting them in a Thank You card that my kid signs. Should I not be doing this??? This is elementary so the “I wish your kid would just get off his phone” stuff doesn’t apply.

Every school does it differently. I’m sure there have been emails going out. Pay attention.

Yes there’s been tons of emails. Not sure why you think I’m not “paying attention?” The emails have the survey results with the teachers favorite stores and restaurants on them. If you can understand context clues, it was clear that my question was in regards to the salty ass people who said they don’t want a gift card, and I was questioning whether that is the norm and IF SO, what to do INSTEAD when my kids’ school pretty much literally suggests places a teacher might want a GC from.

I haven't read the whole thread, but our school asks, "My classroom always needs...." which is really helpful. It might be crayons, dry erase markers, etc.

In your case, I'd just give a gift card to one of those places. At least you know that teacher goes to that store.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Our specialists neither attend these meetings nor provide coverage when people are absent.

Your specialists must be lucky. I (music teacher) cover all the time and attend 504s and IEPs.

Why are you being asked to go to 504s or IEPs? They only require the classroom teacher and an AP usually.

DP. You need a Gen Ed teacher. If the kids actual teacher can’t make it, another gen Ed teacher goes. In secondary, a kid has 7-8 teachers, any of whom legally can participate. It’s also the case sometimes that you get pulled into an IEP meeting for a kid you have never met because depending on the kid you legally have to have the case manager/sped teacher present, a Gen Ed teacher, and an EL teacher if the student is dually identified.

Obviously it is ideal if the Gen Ed teacher present is one who a) teaches the kid and b) teaches a core area that is typically the focus of their goal and accommodations, but in a pinch, a Gen Ed music teacher can go and has to if asked to legally fulfill the requirement for a Gen Ed teacher to be present. Their input isn’t going to be as helpful as a teacher who teaches the core content (sorry music teacher, but it’s true) but they can still contribute on behaviors and such.

The parent can request the meeting to be rescheduled if the core classroom teacher can’t make it.

Sure. They can legally do lots of things that they don’t always know. Most parents are just going to go ahead with the meeting when they show up and see who is attending. Not all are aware of the difference of feedback that a core vs specials teacher could give (to be fair, not all core teachers DO give valuable feedback either) and not all know that they can ask to reschedule if they’re not happy with who is attending. Sped is an incredibly labrythine system with not much transparency and general knowledge on its functions for laypeople.

I think most do.

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Anonymous wrote:its crazy how they have CLT Meetings and they tell us is not being taught.

Are you trying to make a joke that nobody is getting or are you really confusing CRT with CLT (Collaborative Team Meeting). 🙄

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

Elementary has All County Chorus too. It was last week in FCPS.

Is there an All County Chorus for a grade diffferent than 6th??

6th grade is elementary in FCPS.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

I hope your job isn’t teaching reading comprehension. You’re responding to a special ed teacher, who undoubtedly does twice as many IEPs as you. Chill out.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

I hope your job isn’t teaching reading comprehension. You’re responding to a special ed teacher, who undoubtedly does twice as many IEPs as you. Chill out.

I assumed that was a specialist responding. My mistake. In any case, she confirmed what we already knew- specialists such as music or PE barely do IEP meetings.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Our specialists neither attend these meetings nor provide coverage when people are absent.

Your specialists must be lucky. I (music teacher) cover all the time and attend 504s and IEPs.

Why are you being asked to go to 504s or IEPs? They only require the classroom teacher and an AP usually.

DP. You need a Gen Ed teacher. If the kids actual teacher can’t make it, another gen Ed teacher goes. In secondary, a kid has 7-8 teachers, any of whom legally can participate. It’s also the case sometimes that you get pulled into an IEP meeting for a kid you have never met because depending on the kid you legally have to have the case manager/sped teacher present, a Gen Ed teacher, and an EL teacher if the student is dually identified.

Obviously it is ideal if the Gen Ed teacher present is one who a) teaches the kid and b) teaches a core area that is typically the focus of their goal and accommodations, but in a pinch, a Gen Ed music teacher can go and has to if asked to legally fulfill the requirement for a Gen Ed teacher to be present. Their input isn’t going to be as helpful as a teacher who teaches the core content (sorry music teacher, but it’s true) but they can still contribute on behaviors and such.

The parent can request the meeting to be rescheduled if the core classroom teacher can’t make it.

Sure. They can legally do lots of things that they don’t always know. Most parents are just going to go ahead with the meeting when they show up and see who is attending. Not all are aware of the difference of feedback that a core vs specials teacher could give (to be fair, not all core teachers DO give valuable feedback either) and not all know that they can ask to reschedule if they’re not happy with who is attending. Sped is an incredibly labrythine system with not much transparency and general knowledge on its functions for laypeople.

I think most do.

No. There are demanding ones who just assume anything goes but most parents get these meeting invites months out and assume who is there is who is there. They don’t all realize they can dictate who is there or they don’t see the purpose of doing so. Most of my students’ parents don’t even speak English - they do not know all their IEP rights or feel in a position to rock any boat.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

LOL you are a hoot too. Take your meds.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

I hope your job isn’t teaching reading comprehension. You’re responding to a special ed teacher, who undoubtedly does twice as many IEPs as you. Chill out.

I assumed that was a specialist responding. My mistake. In any case, she confirmed what we already knew- specialists such as music or PE barely do IEP meetings.

You know what they say about assuming. And you are one giant ASSumption.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

I hope your job isn’t teaching reading comprehension. You’re responding to a special ed teacher, who undoubtedly does twice as many IEPs as you. Chill out.

I assumed that was a specialist responding. My mistake. In any case, she confirmed what we already knew- specialists such as music or PE barely do IEP meetings.

You know what they say about assuming. And you are one giant ASSumption.

I stated a fact that was backed up by PP. You responded with an insult. What is threatening about the facts? You’re insecure. The fact is specialists at the elementary school level rarely go to IEPs and do not have parent teacher conferences. They don’t do as much work as the regular classroom teacher. Therefore they shouldn’t get the same amount in a gift card for teacher appreciation week as the regular classroom teacher. It’s a hell of a lot easier to plan a PE lesson than a history, LA, math or science lesson. Many parents and classroom teachers agree and that’s why participation in the gift cards that get split equally among all staff members was low. Deal with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that the majority of the gift cards should go to the teachers and not be split evenly across the board to all staff members. I think it is a nice gesture to try to give something to everyone to show our appreciation, however it should be based on some kind of tiered system where classroom teachers get the most, then specials, etc.

Why shouldn’t specials get same amount?

It’s simple: they don’t have to do parent teacher conferences, IEP meetings, or 504 meetings.

Right, specials teachers just teach every child in the building, host field day (pe), produce multiple student shows each year (music). Provide coverage when others are absent AND attend IEP/504 meetings when requested.

No one really requests a music or PE teacher at an IEP meeting, sorry.

And yes, dealing with parents via multiple emails and parent teacher conferences alone deserves a bit more appreciation. Deal with it.

Well, tell that to the IEP meeting I went to as a music teacher last week lol. I’m not sure why you’d imply that I’m lying about that?
I also deal with parents (~500) via emails/over the phone and have in some instances hosted conferences when requested. On top of that I’ve produced 3 concerts so far this year and spent countless volunteer hours preparing kids and taking them to all county chorus. I’m absolutely not saying classroom teachers deserve less, just that specialists deserve the same appreciation too. It’s sad that someone would advocate keeping a few treats once a year from a public school teacher.

Are you a middle school teacher? You mentioned all county chorus. I’m talking about elementary school teachers here anyway. Who requested that you go to the IEP meeting? I have never heard of a parent requesting a music teacher to attend. Was it the parents of the student who asked you to be there? Or did the admin request you were there because none of the core teachers could go?

SPED teacher here in an ES school. I have had several IEP meetings over my 20 years where specialist were requested and must go-I've even seen parent not want them to leave till the end of the meeting. You should stop speaking as if you know what goes on in every school every grade every year....ridiculous. And shame on you acting more put important than others in the building. BTW All county chorus is 6th grade and most 6th grades are ES.

You're a hoot. You are comparing what you do (several IEPs over 20 years) to what a classroom teacher averages in one school year, maybe even a few months. Not even close to a comparison. Specialists shouldn’t be getting the same amount of a gift card as a classroom teacher. Everyone knows the specialists are cush jobs. In fact, many classroom teachers give up having their own class to get one of the coveted positions so they don’t have to have countless IEP meetings or parent teacher conferences. Just stop with the “we are the same as classroom teachers” bs. You aren’t.

I hope your job isn’t teaching reading comprehension. You’re responding to a special ed teacher, who undoubtedly does twice as many IEPs as you. Chill out.

I assumed that was a specialist responding. My mistake. In any case, she confirmed what we already knew- specialists such as music or PE barely do IEP meetings.

You know what they say about assuming. And you are one giant ASSumption.

I stated a fact that was backed up by PP. You responded with an insult. What is threatening about the facts? You’re insecure. The fact is specialists at the elementary school level rarely go to IEPs and do not have parent teacher conferences. They don’t do as much work as the regular classroom teacher. Therefore they shouldn’t get the same amount in a gift card for teacher appreciation week as the regular classroom teacher. It’s a hell of a lot easier to plan a PE lesson than a history, LA, math or science lesson. Many parents and classroom teachers agree and that’s why participation in the gift cards that get split equally among all staff members was low. Deal with it.

I'm not a specialist just laughing at how triggered you are...we get it...there there you work the hardest-no one works harder lol