John Oliver's bit on homeschooling from Oct. 2023

[Anonymous]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzsZP9o7SlI

I was stunned speechless by the woman who created a Nazi curriculum. It almost always seems the majority of people homeschooling are the people least qualified to do it. A woman I grew up with has 5 or 6 kids and homeschools, but she has a Masters in Education. Yes, she wears very long flowy skirts, is Catholic and has a lot of kids, so you'd think she's not qualified, but she actually is!

[Anonymous]

How does a single woman creating a Nazi curriculum have anything to do with the majority of people homeschooling?

[Anonymous]

No problematic curricula in public/private school. (Sarcasm)

Should we assume those examples apply to all of them?

[Anonymous]

Anti-homeschoolers like to normalize the outliers.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:How does a single woman creating a Nazi curriculum have anything to do with the majority of people homeschooling?

I ... didn't say it did?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti-homeschoolers like to normalize the outliers.

+1

Ironic that most anti-homeschoolers accuse all homeschoolers of ignorance.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, she wears very long flowy skirts, is Catholic and has a lot of kids, so you'd think she's not qualified, but she actually is!

Nothing about that would make me think she's not qualified.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anti-homeschoolers like to normalize the outliers.

John Oliver has done a bit on homeschooling before. I think he's anti-unregulated homeschooling, which is not the same as anti-homeschooling. Unregulated homeschooling is a bigger problem in some states than others.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:How does a single woman creating a Nazi curriculum have anything to do with the majority of people homeschooling?

I ... didn't say it did?

This is a pretty strong statement... "It almost always seems the majority of people homeschooling are the people least qualified to do it." So you used the occasion to get another dig in.

[Anonymous]

I think homeschooling should be regulated. The other example and I think it is unfortunately a lot more common is the adult reminiscing about her homeschool schedule where they spent maybe 30 minutes on academics and the rest of the day doing chores and supervising siblings

The focus in the legal arguments of homeschooling is about the rights of the parents versus the rights of the child. Little parental rights movement is the same it's all about what parents think they have a right to do and viewing their children as a legal extension of them versus as an individual with their own rights.

It's interesting to me how people who are advocating for homeschooling constantly talk about how it is the superior option. Simultaneously argue that there should be little to know oversight or transparency into how their children are getting that Superior education. I would assume that if you are wanting to prove that your child is doing better you would be okay with observations, wir samples assessments or other methods demonstrate that your child is getting a high quality education.

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Anonymous wrote:How does a single woman creating a Nazi curriculum have anything to do with the majority of people homeschooling?

There should be a regulatory structure in place to make sure that this isn't permitted. The same lack of oversight permits parents or guardians to throw some IBLP wisdom booklets at kids and call it an education.

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Anonymous wrote:No problematic curricula in public/private school. (Sarcasm)

Should we assume those examples apply to all of them?

If any public school teacher was teaching a Nazi curriculum you can be damn sure people would find out about in 2 minutes and it would stop in 3 minutes. Someone got disciplined in MCPS last month for problematic facebooks posts or something.

But here there is nothing anyone can do about it as far as I can tell.

The question isn’t whether all homeschoolers are doing this but whether there is any accountability for what homeschoolers are teaching.

[Anonymous]

Wow I was so appalled by this piece!!! To me, it was just propaganda for getting people to enforce children be in public schools so that they can be controlled by the gov. I know that sounds extreme but hey...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think homeschooling should be regulated. The other example and I think it is unfortunately a lot more common is the adult reminiscing about her homeschool schedule where they spent maybe 30 minutes on academics and the rest of the day doing chores and supervising siblings

The focus in the legal arguments of homeschooling is about the rights of the parents versus the rights of the child. Little parental rights movement is the same it's all about what parents think they have a right to do and viewing their children as a legal extension of them versus as an individual with their own rights.

It's interesting to me how people who are advocating for homeschooling constantly talk about how it is the superior option. Simultaneously argue that there should be little to know oversight or transparency into how their children are getting that Superior education. I would assume that if you are wanting to prove that your child is doing better you would be okay with observations, wir samples assessments or other methods demonstrate that your child is getting a high quality education.

I'm fine with some form of assessment... but there needs to be choice, because we're not all teaching to a grade-level assessment. Some kids do several years of ELA growth with maybe half a grade of math, then several years of math and less ELA. Whatever works best for the child should be assessed for total growth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think homeschooling should be regulated. The other example and I think it is unfortunately a lot more common is the adult reminiscing about her homeschool schedule where they spent maybe 30 minutes on academics and the rest of the day doing chores and supervising siblings

The focus in the legal arguments of homeschooling is about the rights of the parents versus the rights of the child. Little parental rights movement is the same it's all about what parents think they have a right to do and viewing their children as a legal extension of them versus as an individual with their own rights.

It's interesting to me how people who are advocating for homeschooling constantly talk about how it is the superior option. Simultaneously argue that there should be little to know oversight or transparency into how their children are getting that Superior education. I would assume that if you are wanting to prove that your child is doing better you would be okay with observations, wir samples assessments or other methods demonstrate that your child is getting a high quality education.

Regulations vary by state. You might want to educate yourself before yammering on..