Bethesda Soccer Plans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

My kids sometimes cry over a difficult school assignment. Should I pull them out of school? Insulate them from all things difficult in childhood, knowing that there are anxiety medications to help when they don’t know how to manage the difficulties of life?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

It's not for everyone, which is a shame since they are the only game in town for the high level of players. I do wonder why anyone would play on the second or third team of Bethesda.

[Anonymous]

There is some truth to Bethesda Girls’ coaches being abusive. KL is certainly the leading candidate with SP close behind. KL should be investigated TBH. SP is bad but not as bad as KL. DG isn’t really involved as much anymore but was never on the same level as KL and has calmed down. All of the other top coaches aren’t any more abusive than those at other clubs.

It is only a matter of when not if KL and SP are reported. KL is worse than many college coaches and almost as bad as former Spirit Coach Richie Burke and I don’t think I am exaggerating. SP can be tough and cross the line sometimes but he is not as bad as many college coaches.

Just to be clear, abusive IMO is insulting, not criticizing. “You should just quit playing f-n soccer!” vs “Stop playing lazy!” or punting a players ball across a field and telling her to leave vs. go sit and think about if you really want to practice today. I personally have no problems with yelling criticisms not insults. I think many parents who complain don’t understand the difference between the two. Criticism is not abuse. This is KL biggest flaw and sometimes SP. ET can sometimes insult with passive aggressive comments but for young players, can hurt them mentally.

Another thing about KL, he is especially hard on the weaker players. Over the years, KL has been video taped, recorded, and reported to JC without any discipline.

For anyone thinking about joining Bethesda, for playing against top level competition, it is excellent. If you are in an age group and KL is the coach and your DD is not a top player, go somewhere else. SP isn’t as bad as some people say here but could be too much for a role player, however I would let my DD still play for him but not KL. All of the other coaches are fine.

Best thing that could ever happen to Bethesda girls is replacing KL. Truth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There is some truth to Bethesda Girls’ coaches being abusive. KL is certainly the leading candidate with SP close behind. KL should be investigated TBH. SP is bad but not as bad as KL. DG isn’t really involved as much anymore but was never on the same level as KL and has calmed down. All of the other top coaches aren’t any more abusive than those at other clubs.

It is only a matter of when not if KL and SP are reported. KL is worse than many college coaches and almost as bad as former Spirit Coach Richie Burke and I don’t think I am exaggerating. SP can be tough and cross the line sometimes but he is not as bad as many college coaches.

Just to be clear, abusive IMO is insulting, not criticizing. “You should just quit playing f-n soccer!” vs “Stop playing lazy!” or punting a players ball across a field and telling her to leave vs. go sit and think about if you really want to practice today. I personally have no problems with yelling criticisms not insults. I think many parents who complain don’t understand the difference between the two. Criticism is not abuse. This is KL biggest flaw and sometimes SP. ET can sometimes insult with passive aggressive comments but for young players, can hurt them mentally.

Another thing about KL, he is especially hard on the weaker players. Over the years, KL has been video taped, recorded, and reported to JC without any discipline.

For anyone thinking about joining Bethesda, for playing against top level competition, it is excellent. If you are in an age group and KL is the coach and your DD is not a top player, go somewhere else. SP isn’t as bad as some people say here but could be too much for a role player, however I would let my DD still play for him but not KL. All of the other coaches are fine.

Best thing that could ever happen to Bethesda girls is replacing KL. Truth.

You must be very close to the club—there is no SP.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is some truth to Bethesda Girls’ coaches being abusive. KL is certainly the leading candidate with SP close behind. KL should be investigated TBH. SP is bad but not as bad as KL. DG isn’t really involved as much anymore but was never on the same level as KL and has calmed down. All of the other top coaches aren’t any more abusive than those at other clubs.

It is only a matter of when not if KL and SP are reported. KL is worse than many college coaches and almost as bad as former Spirit Coach Richie Burke and I don’t think I am exaggerating. SP can be tough and cross the line sometimes but he is not as bad as many college coaches.

Just to be clear, abusive IMO is insulting, not criticizing. “You should just quit playing f-n soccer!” vs “Stop playing lazy!” or punting a players ball across a field and telling her to leave vs. go sit and think about if you really want to practice today. I personally have no problems with yelling criticisms not insults. I think many parents who complain don’t understand the difference between the two. Criticism is not abuse. This is KL biggest flaw and sometimes SP. ET can sometimes insult with passive aggressive comments but for young players, can hurt them mentally.

Another thing about KL, he is especially hard on the weaker players. Over the years, KL has been video taped, recorded, and reported to JC without any discipline.

For anyone thinking about joining Bethesda, for playing against top level competition, it is excellent. If you are in an age group and KL is the coach and your DD is not a top player, go somewhere else. SP isn’t as bad as some people say here but could be too much for a role player, however I would let my DD still play for him but not KL. All of the other coaches are fine.

Best thing that could ever happen to Bethesda girls is replacing KL. Truth.

You must be very close to the club—there is no SP.

SC, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

My kids sometimes cry over a difficult school assignment. Should I pull them out of school? Insulate them from all things difficult in childhood, knowing that there are anxiety medications to help when they don’t know how to manage the difficulties of life?

“You are useless”, “do what I f**ing say”. Are those the difficult assignments you are talking about? That’s what some BSC coaches do. Are you suggesting medicating a girl because of being verbally abuse?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

My kids sometimes cry over a difficult school assignment. Should I pull them out of school? Insulate them from all things difficult in childhood, knowing that there are anxiety medications to help when they don’t know how to manage the difficulties of life?

“You are useless”, “do what I f**ing say”. Are those the difficult assignments you are talking about? That’s what some BSC coaches do. Are you suggesting medicating a girl because of being verbally abuse?

You keep referring to girls not kids or players. Is there a gender angle here for you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

It's not for everyone, which is a shame since they are the only game in town for the high level of players. I do wonder why anyone would play on the second or third team of Bethesda.

Do the coaches you consider "abusive" only coach the top teams? We are not affiliated with Bethesda, but I have heard very good feedback about their coaches, including on the second and third teams.

From the outside, Bethesda's second and third teams are usually very good and they tend to play in strong divisions for second or third teams.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There is some truth to Bethesda Girls’ coaches being abusive. KL is certainly the leading candidate with SP close behind. KL should be investigated TBH. SP is bad but not as bad as KL. DG isn’t really involved as much anymore but was never on the same level as KL and has calmed down. All of the other top coaches aren’t any more abusive than those at other clubs.

It is only a matter of when not if KL and SP are reported. KL is worse than many college coaches and almost as bad as former Spirit Coach Richie Burke and I don’t think I am exaggerating. SP can be tough and cross the line sometimes but he is not as bad as many college coaches.

Just to be clear, abusive IMO is insulting, not criticizing. “You should just quit playing f-n soccer!” vs “Stop playing lazy!” or punting a players ball across a field and telling her to leave vs. go sit and think about if you really want to practice today. I personally have no problems with yelling criticisms not insults. I think many parents who complain don’t understand the difference between the two. Criticism is not abuse. This is KL biggest flaw and sometimes SP. ET can sometimes insult with passive aggressive comments but for young players, can hurt them mentally.

Another thing about KL, he is especially hard on the weaker players. Over the years, KL has been video taped, recorded, and reported to JC without any discipline.

For anyone thinking about joining Bethesda, for playing against top level competition, it is excellent. If you are in an age group and KL is the coach and your DD is not a top player, go somewhere else. SP isn’t as bad as some people say here but could be too much for a role player, however I would let my DD still play for him but not KL. All of the other coaches are fine.

Best thing that could ever happen to Bethesda girls is replacing KL. Truth.

You must be very close to the club—there is no SP.

SC, right?

I think that is obvious.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's only a matter of time before this club disappears unless there is a significant shift in leadership. Yes, there are some good teams, especially on the girls' side. But can that truly be considered a success? At what cost? Eventually, a family will step forward and report a case of abuse, and a scandal will erupt. All those who have been covering it up will be exposed.

No abuse and no coverups. just a kibd of coaching that doesn't suite everyone

At BSC making girls cry is not abuse. It’s just “A kind of coaching that doesn’t suite everyone”.

It's not for everyone, which is a shame since they are the only game in town for the high level of players. I do wonder why anyone would play on the second or third team of Bethesda.

Do the coaches you consider "abusive" only coach the top teams? We are not affiliated with Bethesda, but I have heard very good feedback about their coaches, including on the second and third

Isn’t it a running joke on this message board that McLean needs a staff psychiatrist for the parents, and BSC HAS a staff psychiatrist for the players?

I’m not affiliated with either club, but have definitely seen the crazy insulting Bethesda coaches at games, and this is on the boys’ side.

[Anonymous]

As a former, not too disgruntled family who chose to leave for greener pastures, we don't regret it. But to be fair, BSC is not that bad nor that good. Pretty average mega club with a neighborhood mentality and business structure. KL is an angry little man but ultimately harmless. Good soccer mind, terrible people skills. My kid developed "tough skin" and how to tune out useless information which was usually not helpful to begin with. 100% agree that unless you are a top player its bearable for a time, and only worth it in the long run really if you are in the upper echelon top 3-4 girls on his team. Unless you live in MoCo I feel for you, no other options, but if you don't live there just leave if its so bad, you won't regret it

[Anonymous]

Have someone heard about "BC" being detained by the police last weekend after a fight with a club parent?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Have someone heard about "BC" being detained by the police last weekend after a fight with a club parent?

It's a matter of time before this guy is fired by the board. Should have happened a long time ago. Nepotism at its finest.