Turning down Ivies

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Anonymous wrote:Cornell for BS/MD program + $$$ at Siena.

Not my kid.

excellent!

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Anonymous wrote:BC over Dartmouth

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Anonymous wrote:BC over Dartmouth

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Plot twist: BC is full ride + special dorms for top 1% students + early registration privileges for top 1% students + extended library privileges for top 1% students + catered food for for top 1% students + concierge service for for top 1% students + spa treatment for for top 1% students + massage service for top 1% students...

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:BC over Dartmouth

!!

Plot twist: BC is full ride + special dorms for top 1% students + early registration privileges for top 1% students + extended library privileges for top 1% students + catered food for for top 1% students + concierge service for for top 1% students + spa treatment for for top 1% students + massage service for top 1% students...

Really, spa services?

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Anonymous wrote:No - I think the media underreports the fact that the tip top schools have the most money to give. Our schools has plenty of middle class families and the ivies are generally a cheaper option than our state school. And def cheaper than the SLACS they got into.

I know one kid turning down Dartmouth for full ride at Duke, but that feels like splitting hairs. Not really about “turning down Ivy” but more “taking better deal at even higher ranked school”

The media underreports the kids who turn them down for more money elsewhere.

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I know of three athletes who turned them down. One had an offer to nearly every Ivy but turned them down for what I'm guessing was a full ride at a state school. Another opted for a service academy.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown and cornell turned down by 3 kids we know. They are going to:

Carnegie mellon (x2) for computer science
Yale

^ C-M makes sense. Maybe they don't game the USNWR rankings, but people in the know *know* they are studs on CS, quantum computing, etc.

Yep, this one makes sense.

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Anonymous wrote:Brown and cornell turned down by 3 kids we know. They are going to:

Carnegie mellon (x2) for computer science
Yale

^ C-M makes sense. Maybe they don't game the USNWR rankings, but people in the know *know* they are studs on CS, quantum computing, etc.

Focusing on program excellence vs. school name is always smart. Because people in the know are the ones who'll be hiring you.

??? Carnegie Mellon does have a really good "school name." Anyone who knows of Brown or Cornell would know this.

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Anonymous wrote:No - I think the media underreports the fact that the tip top schools have the most money to give. Our schools has plenty of middle class families and the ivies are generally a cheaper option than our state school. And def cheaper than the SLACS they got into.

I know one kid turning down Dartmouth for full ride at Duke, but that feels like splitting hairs. Not really about “turning down Ivy” but more “taking better deal at even higher ranked school”

And for those of us doughnut hole families with no financial aid, sometimes kids turn down an expensive Ivy for a full ride at State U...

I guess. We don’t have a lot of full rides at our state u and I’ve found donut hole families (making 250k) just say, what the hell, and pay the 350 for take over the 200k for state u. The delta isn’t enough to stop them.

Most in-state State U's are not $50K a year, and most people getting into an Ivy are getting some merit at the State U. These people making $250K must not have any other kids in schools that require tuition.

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There are many students who turn down Ivies for a better fit. These are smart kids who can think for themselves

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Anonymous wrote:we all get the duke and Stanford thing too.

I think a lot of media is getting traction on clickbait headlines leading people to believe that kids across the land are turning down Harvard for Alabama, and that's not often the case.

sure, 1 out of 100. but 99 are still picking Harvard.

I have never seen headlines like this. The media SHOULD be reporting on it. The cost is out of control. People should not be giving up their retirement accounts or other kids' college funds to pay for it.

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Anonymous wrote:No - I think the media underreports the fact that the tip top schools have the most money to give. Our schools has plenty of middle class families and the ivies are generally a cheaper option than our state school. And def cheaper than the SLACS they got into.

I know one kid turning down Dartmouth for full ride at Duke, but that feels like splitting hairs. Not really about “turning down Ivy” but more “taking better deal at even higher ranked school”

And for those of us doughnut hole families with no financial aid, sometimes kids turn down an expensive Ivy for a full ride at State U...

That's a pretty rich doughnut hole when it comes to Ivies.
Kids on 250k are getting aid at Ivies and top LACs.

Isn't that the donut hole definition?

2 kids at Ivies. 240k. No FA.

Ouch! Are they both in college at the same time? You literally got zero from both schools??

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Anonymous wrote:No - I think the media underreports the fact that the tip top schools have the most money to give. Our schools has plenty of middle class families and the ivies are generally a cheaper option than our state school. And def cheaper than the SLACS they got into.

I know one kid turning down Dartmouth for full ride at Duke, but that feels like splitting hairs. Not really about “turning down Ivy” but more “taking better deal at even higher ranked school”

And for those of us doughnut hole families with no financial aid, sometimes kids turn down an expensive Ivy for a full ride at State U...

That's a pretty rich doughnut hole when it comes to Ivies.
Kids on 250k are getting aid at Ivies and top LACs.

Only those with little in the way of assets. We are at 180k and no aid; full pay here due to assets.

What assets are counted? Personal residence? Retirement accounts? Vehicles?

House and cars owned free & clear but cars all old. Paying for Catholic high schools and will have multiple in college at once.

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Duke

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Anonymous wrote:The moral of the story seems to be that lots of kids chose lots of schools over Cornell. And Cornell's choice to waitlist many of their otherwise qualified ED applicants this year will likely make that choice even more probable for this class (it certainly did for my kid and the kids she knows who were waitlisted and then chose other schools after later being accepted to Cornell and other top schools - love the school that loves you back.)

Cornell has always been seen as the bottom of the ivy league, so that's unsurprising. To lose less students they even promise to match all financial aid offers from 10 schools: the 7 other ivy leagues, Stanford, Duke, and MIT. Their administration even stated “Of the students who said where they planned to enroll, they most often chose the Ivies, Stanford, Duke or MIT over Cornell, Keane said. Princeton and Harvard were each the choice of 7 percent of accepted students who declined Cornell; UPenn and MIT were each the choice of 5 percent; Duke and Yale were each the choice of 4 percent; and Columbia, Stanford and Dartmouth University were each the choice of 3 percent.” Keep in mind these percentages are of all students who were accepted to Cornell, meaning if they accepted 5,000 students, 7% or 350 of those students chose Princeton instead, which is actually a lot.