biden pushing for new capital gains tax

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.



Why am I afraid of my government?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.


This. Your guy ran on this as a campaign promise and then conveniently forgot it the minute he was in power. We need to equalize the rates or your guy's poor followers will pry your wealth from your cold dead hands once they realize they've been had. Remember, they have all the guns.

From the NYT, May 14 of last year:

Morris Pearl, 60, a former managing director at BlackRock, the largest asset management firm in the world, points to himself as an example.

“People are following the law just fine,” said Pearl, who started at Salomon Brothers in the 1980s. “I generally don’t pay much taxes.”

Pearl has two young adult sons with trust funds in the “seven figures.” He is also the chair of the Patriotic Millionaires, a nonprofit group of well-heeled Americans pushing for the wealthy to pay much more in taxes.

One reason they do not, he joked, is that “the basic way to save on taxes is to not have any income.” His tongue-in-cheek message being that it’s far better to earn capital gains on investments that go untaxed unless or until those gains are “realized” when sold for cash.

“I have right now in my stock portfolio, some stock that my wife’s father, who died a long time ago, bought in the 1970s — that investment has gone from a few thousand dollars to many hundreds of thousands of dollars,” Pearl noted. “I’ve never paid a penny of taxes on all that, and I may not ever, because I might not sell and then my kids are going to have millions of dollars in income that’s never taxed in any way, shape or form.”

Pearl doesn’t think the U.S. government “needs more money from rich people” to fund itself. Rather, his support for reforming the tax system arises from his belief that the rich have begun to monopolize resources and opportunity in a way that jeopardizes social stability and economic growth.

“I have investments in companies that depend on growth,” he said. “I’m not altruistic.”
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.


Of course it's never a spending problem..it's always a tax problem.


I don’t think you understand the math. This is decades worth of rampant spending. There is no belt tightening that can make a difference. In fact many prominent economists say we are past the point where increasing taxes, even at exorbitant levels, can make a difference. From here on out it will be rapid quality of life decreases and asset transfers to gov. or…..war.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.


Of course it's never a spending problem..it's always a tax problem.


There is no government program that is so unimportant that we can end it. We still have a helium reserve for our airship fleet.

They sold it. https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/us-just-sold-helium-stockpile-s-medical-world-worried-rcna134785

And it was started for the airship fleet. Thats not why we retained it, goober.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Capital gains are income. Why shouldn’t income from investments be taxed at the same rate as earned income from salary and wages? There is no good reason except that capitalists own every level of government and everything else.


Capital gains on a primary residence are many people’s ONLY investment. So taxing that higher than someone’s passive income on the stock market/other investments is just another way that the UMC bear the burden for everyone.

UMC would be spending that on cars or furniture or going on vacations but truly wealthy people just stockpile it because they can live fabulously enough just on their income. It makes more sense to tax people who own more than one home or who are buying yachts.

It’s always been reprehensible that earned income is taxed higher and why the rich get richer and everyone else struggle to get ahead. I’m all for taxes, they pay for civilization, but it makes no sense that in the past 20 years our income has doubled and our lifestyle hasn’t improved. We paid $150,000 in taxes last year and I 100% would have spent that on remodeling the outdated house we bought last year (at 7%) if I could have. Spending is good for the economy. Let us spend. Let the Uber wealthy with their multiple homes and RE investors who are responsible for the raising prices pay more.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Capital gains are income. Why shouldn’t income from investments be taxed at the same rate as earned income from salary and wages? There is no good reason except that capitalists own every level of government and everything else.


Capital gains on a primary residence are many people’s ONLY investment. So taxing that higher than someone’s passive income on the stock market/other investments is just another way that the UMC bear the burden for everyone.

UMC would be spending that on cars or furniture or going on vacations but truly wealthy people just stockpile it because they can live fabulously enough just on their income. It makes more sense to tax people who own more than one home or who are buying yachts.

It’s always been reprehensible that earned income is taxed higher and why the rich get richer and everyone else struggle to get ahead. I’m all for taxes, they pay for civilization, but it makes no sense that in the past 20 years our income has doubled and our lifestyle hasn’t improved. We paid $150,000 in taxes last year and I 100% would have spent that on remodeling the outdated house we bought last year (at 7%) if I could have. Spending is good for the economy. Let us spend. Let the Uber wealthy with their multiple homes and RE investors who are responsible for the raising prices pay more.


Do you understand this?

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.


Of course it's never a spending problem..it's always a tax problem.


I don’t think you understand the math. This is decades worth of rampant spending. There is no belt tightening that can make a difference. In fact many prominent economists say we are past the point where increasing taxes, even at exorbitant levels, can make a difference. From here on out it will be rapid quality of life decreases and asset transfers to gov. or…..war.


Wrong

Cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicaid. That goes 75% of the way towards attacking the problem. Those 3 alone are the vast majority of govt spending. Social security is a ponzi scam that has finally been exposed.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.



This.

Unless you are a hedge fund manager or a billionaire, this doesn't impact you.

And if you fall into one of these categories, then county your blessings for the opportunities this country has afforded you to make some serious money.


Hunter paid his taxes yet? Are hookers still deductible?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.


Of course it's never a spending problem..it's always a tax problem.


I don’t think you understand the math. This is decades worth of rampant spending. There is no belt tightening that can make a difference. In fact many prominent economists say we are past the point where increasing taxes, even at exorbitant levels, can make a difference. From here on out it will be rapid quality of life decreases and asset transfers to gov. or…..war.


Wrong

Cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicaid. That goes 75% of the way towards attacking the problem. Those 3 alone are the vast majority of govt spending. Social security is a ponzi scam that has finally been exposed.


Oh yes, remove the safety net that distinguishes us from uncivilized nations, that will do it. Let’s let poor children and elderly die of hunger and preventable disease. That’s the ticket. /s
Anonymous
Not just capital gains taxes. He has vowed to let the Trump tax cuts expire.
That would mean a substantial increase in taxes for most middle income Americans.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.



This.

Unless you are a hedge fund manager or a billionaire, this doesn't impact you.

And if you fall into one of these categories, then county your blessings for the opportunities this country has afforded you to make some serious money.


Hunter paid his taxes yet? Are hookers still deductible?


We'll see how Don does on that.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden Calls for 44.6% Capital Gains Tax Rate, Highest Capital Gains Tax Since Its Creation in 1922 - ENJOY.


Higher taxes are INEVITABLE, as is forced purchase of treasuries. US has catastrophic debt level, particularly at the current interest rates.

UMC will be the first to bear the brunt. Middle class down the line.


Of course it's never a spending problem..it's always a tax problem.


I don’t think you understand the math. This is decades worth of rampant spending. There is no belt tightening that can make a difference. In fact many prominent economists say we are past the point where increasing taxes, even at exorbitant levels, can make a difference. From here on out it will be rapid quality of life decreases and asset transfers to gov. or…..war.


Wrong

Cut social security, cut medicare, cut medicaid. That goes 75% of the way towards attacking the problem. Those 3 alone are the vast majority of govt spending. Social security is a ponzi scam that has finally been exposed.


Social security runs 88 billion yearly surplus and generates 21.9% of the federal revenues. Also the feds borrow against social security. So how you going to pay for anything without those programs income?

Corporations paid 10% of the federal budget whole individually tax payer pay 45%. Guess you are for raising corporate and individual taxes?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.



This.

Unless you are a hedge fund manager or a billionaire, this doesn't impact you.

And if you fall into one of these categories, then county your blessings for the opportunities this country has afforded you to make some serious money.


Hunter paid his taxes yet? Are hookers still deductible?


Yes he has paid all taxes and penalties. This is why it is strange the government is going after him. Paid everything. The only people who are prosecuted for failure to pay taxes are people who do not pay their taxes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.



This.

Unless you are a hedge fund manager or a billionaire, this doesn't impact you.

And if you fall into one of these categories, then county your blessings for the opportunities this country has afforded you to make some serious money.


Hunter paid his taxes yet? Are hookers still deductible?


Yes he has paid all taxes and penalties. This is why it is strange the government is going after him. Paid everything. The only people who are prosecuted for failure to pay taxes are people who do not pay their taxes.


No, he actually didn't. He never filed income taxes for his income from Burisma in 2014-2015, but Weiss let the statute of limitations expire.
And, the taxes that were paid after all this came to light were not paid by him. They were paid by his Sugar Daddy Kevin Morris.
And, yes people are prosecuted for not paying taxes on time. He had the money - he just chose to use it to fund his vices. One of the reasons he is being charged is because he made fraudulent claims on his tax forms..... claiming hotels for hookers and hookers themselves as tax deductions.

Luxury car rentals and hotels were claimed as business "travel, transportation and other", according to the indictment.
He deducted academic tutoring for his daughter as "legal professional and consulting" and claimed payments to escorts and dancers as "office and miscellaneous".
In 2018 he directed a personal aide to "place on payroll and provide healthcare benefits to three women with whom he had romantic or sexual relationships and a fourth woman who was related to one of those women".
An Arkansas woman with whom he had a child was among those he hired.
While in the throes of a crack cocaine addiction, he "claimed extensive business travel in 2018 when he had none".


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67656796
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:He’s just considering proposing that for people making over a $1 million the capital gains tax rate is the same as a the ordinary income rate.

It’s a way to avoid all the ridiculous games like the carried interest loophole that lets hedge fund managers making $50 million pay tax at a lower rate than w-2 employees making $200k.



This.

Unless you are a hedge fund manager or a billionaire, this doesn't impact you.

And if you fall into one of these categories, then county your blessings for the opportunities this country has afforded you to make some serious money.


Hunter paid his taxes yet? Are hookers still deductible?


Yes he has paid all taxes and penalties. This is why it is strange the government is going after him. Paid everything. The only people who are prosecuted for failure to pay taxes are people who do not pay their taxes.


No, he actually didn't. He never filed income taxes for his income from Burisma in 2014-2015, but Weiss let the statute of limitations expire.
And, the taxes that were paid after all this came to light were not paid by him. They were paid by his Sugar Daddy Kevin Morris.
And, yes people are prosecuted for not paying taxes on time. He had the money - he just chose to use it to fund his vices. One of the reasons he is being charged is because he made fraudulent claims on his tax forms..... claiming hotels for hookers and hookers themselves as tax deductions.

Luxury car rentals and hotels were claimed as business "travel, transportation and other", according to the indictment.
He deducted academic tutoring for his daughter as "legal professional and consulting" and claimed payments to escorts and dancers as "office and miscellaneous".
In 2018 he directed a personal aide to "place on payroll and provide healthcare benefits to three women with whom he had romantic or sexual relationships and a fourth woman who was related to one of those women".
An Arkansas woman with whom he had a child was among those he hired.
While in the throes of a crack cocaine addiction, he "claimed extensive business travel in 2018 when he had none".


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67656796


Oh no he paid everything. You just do not have a clue what you are babbling on about. Go back to the flock you f’ing loser.
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