Ronna McDaniel out at NBC

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

this and I basically said this earlier. Yes, she is liberal. That said, she also has done a TON of research and presents those facts in her pieces, podcasts and books. Her 30 minute piece on Monday used some of the research she did for her book and podcast about the Nazi infiltration of our government in the 30s. It is worth your time to read that history and learn from it.

Chris Hayes is very much the same. I listen to his WITHpod from time to time and it is excellent. Very thoughtful, scholarly discussions. I am listening to one right now about polling and why it seems so wonky at this point in time. As a former market researcher (we didn't do political polls, but same methodologies apply), I find these things fascinating.

The prime time cable news hosts are very good at what they are paid very well to do which to present current political news in a one-sided manner to maintain the thoughts of the major party political base. Some of these hosts knowingly use altered facts in their presentations and some don't but their agendas are the same. Acknowledging the similar agendas behind the reporting from Maddow and Hannity isn't an attempt to equate the legitimacy of what they are reporting. Political bias in media has always existed but it's influence has become increasingly toxic since Rush Limbaugh took partisan journalism to another level in the 1990s with his daily in your face divisiveness that was easily accessible by the American public. Cable news has had a noticeably detrimental impact on our political landscape and while Fox News may be the worst of the worsts in many ways, MSNBC has long been a consistent player in the same game. Long term exposure to partisan journalism, even if based in 100% factual reporting, is never healthy.

You cannot equate presenting facts with an agenda versus just making crap up and lying all the time, but you doa good job at the attempt.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

DP. You just made the PP's point.

Dp- they didn’t though.
Look there is a reason Hannity can churn that show out night after night for how many years now? It’s all feels, vibes, and gripes. All fluff no stuff.
And there’s a reason Maddow has scaled back to one night a week. Her show is hard work. It’s arduous doing that much research.
They are both on TV and there the similarities end.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

Nobody does. It is irrelevant. The NY and DC newsrooms, pr and echo chambers pretend cable news matters. It’s all bullshit.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

Nobody does. It is irrelevant. The NY and DC newsrooms, pr and echo chambers pretend cable news matters. It’s all bullshit.

It is mostly BS but cable news isn't irrelevant considering the prime time ratings of some of the popular evening hosts. It also isn't irrelevant due to the portion of viewers that tune in regularly thinking they are getting straight forward news with whole truths instead of half truths with a spin. Long term exposure to partisan journalism is not healthy. Cable news has played a key role in dividing the country along political lines more so than ever before. It's relevant and not for a good reason.

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But MSNBC reporters respect Al Sharpten?
The guy is a fraud and a criminal.
He is not a reverend, that was a childhood nickname and he was responsible for a huge damaging fraud in the 80s in NYC. Google Tawana Brawley.
Yet, MSNBC loves him.

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Anonymous wrote:But MSNBC reporters respect Al Sharpten?
The guy is a fraud and a criminal.
He is not a reverend, that was a childhood nickname and he was responsible for a huge damaging fraud in the 80s in NYC. Google Tawana Brawley.
Yet, MSNBC loves him.

You don't think Al Sharpton has atoned for his actions from *checks notes* 25 years ago? I don't love him, but he has evolved as a human. How has Trump evolved over those same 25 years?

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Anonymous wrote:But MSNBC reporters respect Al Sharpten?
The guy is a fraud and a criminal.
He is not a reverend, that was a childhood nickname and he was responsible for a huge damaging fraud in the 80s in NYC. Google Tawana Brawley.
Yet, MSNBC loves him.

If you respect ronna McDaniel than listen to her all you want. MSNBC will lose viewers if they hire election deniers that tried to throw out the votes of many people in their audience.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:But MSNBC reporters respect Al Sharpten?
The guy is a fraud and a criminal.
He is not a reverend, that was a childhood nickname and he was responsible for a huge damaging fraud in the 80s in NYC. Google Tawana Brawley.
Yet, MSNBC loves him.

MSNBC is a cable news network. They aren't bound to some moral authority. Ratings are all that matters. Think about how long our other favorite cable news network let Tucker Carlson and others push the rigged election crap. If you are inclined to watch garbage TV, expect garbage. If you want something closer to legitimate news, go to ABC, NPR, or dare I say Comedy Central.

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

Nobody does. It is irrelevant. The NY and DC newsrooms, pr and echo chambers pretend cable news matters. It’s all bullshit.

It is mostly BS but cable news isn't irrelevant considering the prime time ratings of some of the popular evening hosts. It also isn't irrelevant due to the portion of viewers that tune in regularly thinking they are getting straight forward news with whole truths instead of half truths with a spin. Long term exposure to partisan journalism is not healthy. Cable news has played a key role in dividing the country along political lines more so than ever before. It's relevant and not for a good reason.

Their ratings are in the toilet. 500k to 3 million senile boomer viewers is IRRELEVANT. If these hack print and online reporters and party apparatus paid trolls didn't spam the clips, nobody would even know these cable shows existed. Their "clout" is 100% manufactured by a media echo chamber.

[Anonymous]

No room for election deniers. NBC shouldn’t have hired her to begin with. Shameful!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This has been brewing almost since she was hired by NBC, but it's official:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/03/26/media/nbc-news-ousts-ronna-mcdaniel/index.html

Gotta say that I find this heartening in a way. Actual journalists and reporters took a stand and won. Part of this era that's been so jarring is the total failure of the media to just say what's going on - sugarcoating the word "lie" forever, lapping up every crazy thing Trump did, treating the GOP like everything was normal. This is a step back towards some semblance of sanity.

They have actual journalists and reporters at NBC and MSNBC? No, just folks dedicated to the party line. Poor Ronna would have been in for a tough ride but the inmates got their way.

+100
This is the same network that promoted the Russian hoax for over 3 years.
And, now they scream "iNteGriTy?"

The reality is that their audience doesn't want to hear any opposing views. And, the hosts want to make sure they don't.

The audience is not interested in an opposing view that Biden did not win the election without a shred of credible evidence to back it up. If you want to listen to that nonsense, don't watch NBC.

MSNBC is an arm of the DNC. Can't have anyone who does not parrot the party line appearing.

While MSNBC is very liberal and supportive of the DNC, they are far less partisan that Fox News. MSNBC has Michael Steele as a regular commentator, has Joe Scarborough as a regular host daily and Nicole Wallace as a regular host.

Not that many, but still significantly more conservative voices than Fox has liberal voices.

The problem here is that Trump and MAGA have taken over the Republican party, and believe that conservative voices that oppose Trump are not Republican. There are still many conservatives who are anti-Trump and those voices are welcome at MSNBC. The Trump idolatry is the problem, not the lack of conservative voices.

The bolded is just laughable. Have you ever watched Fox?
Just a few of the regular Democratic contributors.....
Jessica Tarlov
Harold Ford
Marie Harf
Richard Fowler
Leslie Marshall

I could go on.... but, you get the point.
There is a reason Fox ratings are heads and shoulders above MSNBC. They actually value dissenting opinions.

You people arguing about which of these cable news networks is more objective and credible is hilarious. They are highly toxic poisons to any of the duped sheep that tune in for their daily dose of hate the other side rhetoric. Their sole job is to keep the sheep in line by making sure their viewers remember why they hate the other side so much that they don't care about how awful their side is. People like Hannity and Maddow are being paid 30 million dollar annual salaries because they are very good at their toxic agendas; not because of their straight forward, objective approach to political news. They are part of the reason why much of America thinks it's "okay" that we have a choice between the two weakest presidential candidates in the history of America in a single election. I just can't with you people...

I don’t actually watch any cable news, though I have watched the odd Rachel Maddow segment and the fact that you lump her well-researched pieces in with Sean “Russia ‘Rites My Pieces” Hannity is both sides garbage.

Nobody does. It is irrelevant. The NY and DC newsrooms, pr and echo chambers pretend cable news matters. It’s all bullshit.

It is mostly BS but cable news isn't irrelevant considering the prime time ratings of some of the popular evening hosts. It also isn't irrelevant due to the portion of viewers that tune in regularly thinking they are getting straight forward news with whole truths instead of half truths with a spin. Long term exposure to partisan journalism is not healthy. Cable news has played a key role in dividing the country along political lines more so than ever before. It's relevant and not for a good reason.

Their ratings are in the toilet. 500k to 3 million senile boomer viewers is IRRELEVANT. If these hack print and online reporters and party apparatus paid trolls didn't spam the clips, nobody would even know these cable shows existed. Their "clout" is 100% manufactured by a media echo chamber.

Fox and MSNBC are still averaging a million plus in daily ratings with some hosts pulling in a much higher average. We need their ratings to tank to an extent that they are no longer relevant but that hasn't happened.

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Anonymous wrote:No room for election deniers. NBC shouldn’t have hired her to begin with. Shameful!

She’s more than a denier, she’s a co-conspirator. She is alleged to have committed a crime!

[Anonymous]

Anyone that’s ever talked to her would tell you what a complete idiot she is. Unqualified mean girl hack.

[Anonymous]

I wonder what Mitt thinks of all this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone that’s ever talked to her would tell you what a complete idiot she is. Unqualified mean girl hack.

That seems to be the number one job qualification for a Republican.