Not sure if this should be in the policy forum instead... Anyone here voting for Youngkin because of

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Anonymous wrote:They are not being taught together. She took Algebra I HN last year in 7th BUT you need to know and re-apply Algebra concepts to geometry. Is this line parallel to that line? Let's look at slope in addition to alt interior angles, etc...

Right now, VA schools use the A-G-A “sandwich”. Three distinct courses, not intertwined concepts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The school board is in the process of choosing a new literacy curriculum. Other school districts are watching closely and will follow the lead.

Voting for Youngkin is a sign that you've stopped paying attention.

Such bs.

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Anonymous wrote:Youngkin will not fix problems in FCPS. It’s a false dichotomy. Look at the platforms of the people who actually control the school board and county government.

This. I’m not happy with the status quo but I don’t think this guy gives a crap about public schools and in fact, might do things to undermine public education. I think people are absolutely going to pay attention to the next SB election and I hope there is an overhaul. But Youngkin for Families? He’s capitalizing on the current dissatisfaction to convince parents to vote for him. I don’t trust him.

Well put.

100%

Lol

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)

DP. Obviously this limits math since FCPS high schools have math classes beyond calculus.

Dial it back a notch.

- BSEE who took Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Multivar as a senior in FCPS years ago

[Anonymous]

OP, I am totally with you and it is not a dilemma for me. I voted for Youngkin this year, first time I voted R and very proud of it. All the policy you listed is just that. The kids who are suffering at FCPS is a real issue that affect my family, my neighbors, my friends.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)

DP. Obviously this limits math since FCPS high schools have math classes beyond calculus.

Dial it back a notch.

- BSEE who took Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Multivar as a senior in FCPS years ago

You are misinformed. VMPI doesn’t touch that.

School districts can continue to offer all of those classes beyond algebra. Use offer dual enrollment, etc.

They very clearly state that. Stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

-BSME (minor in econometrics), MSOR

And, more relevantly, I’ve been paying attention to VMPI for several months.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:-BSME (minor in econometrics), MSOR

And, more relevantly, I’ve been paying attention to VMPI for several months.

Oh, so you think everything they initially said should be forgotten?

They've told us their ultimate goal. We know what they want.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)

DP. Obviously this limits math since FCPS high schools have math classes beyond calculus.

Dial it back a notch.

- BSEE who took Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Multivar as a senior in FCPS years ago

You are misinformed. VMPI doesn’t touch that.

School districts can continue to offer all of those classes beyond algebra. Use offer dual enrollment, etc.

They very clearly state that. Stop spreading misinformation.

“Follow the math path!” 2 classes starting 11-12 when they mention calculus. It’s literally front and center on the page. Oh and also if you attended the meetings you would see they backtracked to claim schools could adjust per student. However the push is all about avoiding different tracking for students so it really is a bunch of public appeasement without making a lot of sense working the original proposed framework. Like I said please review the underlying studies fueling the initiative behind VMPI. The goal is made very clear early on it’s important to understand the fundamental reasons for the changes to see why this whole “oh no we didn’t say that” type of response doesn’t logically fit. It is all about putting kids in same classes regardless of ability, not tracking students based on ability grouping and yes capping when calculus is offered under the “Math Path”. Rather I am interested in how you see schools provided for advanced mathematics needs under the proposed curriculum or how will schools provide for mathematically gifted students without tracking them or allowing them to take classes separate from the main “math path” based on their math level. It fundamentally goes against the whole premise of their idea math is for everyone, not everyone needs calculus, relinquish your privilege etc etc.

[Anonymous]

Youngkin will make as much difference to FCPS as Hogan has to MCPS, which is to say none at all.

You need to focus on more local elections.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:-BSME (minor in econometrics), MSOR

And, more relevantly, I’ve been paying attention to VMPI for several months.

Oh, so you think everything they initially said should be forgotten?

They've told us their ultimate goal. We know what they want.

Initially, they didn’t say much. A lot was deferred to future info sessions.

So some people extrapolated (incorrectly) based on limited information and fixated on non-core aspects of early discussions.

But once they got to the HS level topics in the info sessions they were crystal clear. They aren’t taking away any advanced classes beyond calculus. Actually, even on the early slides they did always say that IB/AP/DE were available paths, which inherently require advanced math. It just wasn’t clearly spelled out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)

DP. Obviously this limits math since FCPS high schools have math classes beyond calculus.

Dial it back a notch.

- BSEE who took Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Multivar as a senior in FCPS years ago

You are misinformed. VMPI doesn’t touch that.

School districts can continue to offer all of those classes beyond algebra. Use offer dual enrollment, etc.

They very clearly state that. Stop spreading misinformation.

“Follow the math path!” 2 classes starting 11-12 when they mention calculus. It’s literally front and center on the page. Oh and also if you attended the meetings you would see they backtracked to claim schools could adjust per student. However the push is all about avoiding different tracking for students so it really is a bunch of public appeasement without making a lot of sense working the original proposed framework. Like I said please review the underlying studies fueling the initiative behind VMPI. The goal is made very clear early on it’s important to understand the fundamental reasons for the changes to see why this whole “oh no we didn’t say that” type of response doesn’t logically fit. It is all about putting kids in same classes regardless of ability, not tracking students based on ability grouping and yes capping when calculus is offered under the “Math Path”. Rather I am interested in how you see schools provided for advanced mathematics needs under the proposed curriculum or how will schools provide for mathematically gifted students without tracking them or allowing them to take classes separate from the main “math path” based on their math level. It fundamentally goes against the whole premise of their idea math is for everyone, not everyone needs calculus, relinquish your privilege etc etc.

On the original infographic they included grade levels on the pathways. As in, the default path. Like today, Math 6 would by default be taken in 6th grade.

But that was clearly misunderstood so they removed the grade levels from the infographic. And they have since very clearly explained how schools districts could accelerate kids and offer compressed courses - just like they do today. They even showed a sample pathway - I shared a screengrab on one of the other threads.

Stop spreading misinformation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Tune in tonight (5/25) at 6:30pm....

Virginia Mathematics Pathways Initiative Community Informational Sessions
Tuesday, May 25, 2021 - Advanced Pathways in Grades 11 - 12


https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCrbxl9wHScrWKWIEoUWNIfQ

Notes from tonight’s meeting:

They are still in “building” phase - proposal won’t be presented until 2022

First draft to BOE 2022
Crosswalk 2024-25
Full implementation 2025-26

Pilots for some new classes start in 2023

School systems can build own courses and allow students to take in any grade (accelerated path) — **this has always been the case**

They blocked out grade levels from infographic to avoid confusion

ALL upper level classes are still offered
Will support AP and IB as do now

Foundational Concepts <<<< K-7
Essential Concepts I-II-III <<<< 8-A-G-A

Precalculus <<<< Mathematical Analysis
Added Data Science II to the list

Rest of world thinks it’s weird to break out A-G-A; better to connect concepts

Example path of accelerated student (just an example - districts are not restricted to this):

[Anonymous]

^ from the other thread

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Youngkin seems like a stand up candidate. Not a career politician, values family, schools and proposed tax cuts in a way that benefit poorer individuals more than an income tax cut which benefits the wealthy more. Reducing the food tax where a disproportionate amount of poorer individuals income goes. It’s a refreshing approach.

Vmpi is a wreck. If you value mathematics and/or have mathematically inclined children you should really be aware of the underpinnings of this movement and the ultimate policy goal and what the state is willing to sacrifice to meet this goal. I am amazed so many people are so interested in AAP or advanced schools/good colleges etc but would support this initiative. It’s shooting our students in the foot. Look up what the VA Tech professor had to say. Colleges are not going to find these pathways competitive for programs looking for advanced students. Education should work to meet the needs of all students, the failure to help bridge that gap should not be reached by lowering our educational options/pursuits and standards. It’s insane. Spend less of the money to lower math through VMPI and get more specialist to work with struggling students in a smaller setting.

I think we all know Terry is sleazy. Some will vote for him because he is Dem. VA is better than this. Served up a re-do candidate who is associated with the Clinton era and expects to win because he reiterates the tired campaign line of trying to say a candidate is Trump. Facts Terry, provide us some facts. We have brains and can see that we deserve better than some entitled campaign that expects us to believe some line and think that line is enough for us to give you are vote. What do you Terry bring to the table? How is your tax plan better for the average VA citizen. We are VA we deserve more than being told what to do by lifelong politicians. Elected officials work for the people. That is often forgotten with the entitled political lifers.

I would be excited for some fresh candidates to represent us.

VMPI doesn’t “lower math”. Stop spreading RWNJ lies.


Have you read the actual program and supporting document texts? I have. And when you limit when a student can take certain advanced classes to 11 grade or above you do indeed cap mathematics. The students cannot take the level of classes during the time constraints left in high school. Look into the different pathways and how many semesters are available for higher level math. I can presume you and your family are not familiar with advanced mathematics and also higher level educational pursuits beyond curriculum dictates. If you were you would likely be much more attuned to the impact these restrictions impose from a practical standpoint. Not to mention the actual curriculum being taught. I implore you to read the supporting documents and the social goals of VMPI and it will be quite clear improving the mathematical prowess and higher level thinking of students is NOT the goal. The state failed to bridge the gap and this program is to bridge the gap by lowering the range of math available/Ie capping more advanced students. https://www.doe.virginia.gov/instruction/mathematics/vmpi/index.shtml#resources

This is absolutely false. I have read it and you clearly have not. VMPI *in no way* limits or caps classes. From the link that you did not read:

The implementation of VMPI would still allow for student acceleration in mathematics content according to ability and achievement. It does not dictate how and when students take specific courses. Those decisions remain with students and school divisions based on individualized learning needs.

The traditional high school pathway culminating in the study of Calculus or other advanced courses is not being eliminated. Additional course pathways will include engaging semester courses in statistics, data science, modeling, design, and logic, among others.

Local school divisions will still have plenty of flexibility to create courses aligned to the standards to meet the needs of all students; and provide opportunities for all students to advance through the curriculum based on their learning needs. School divisions will also be able to offer advanced sections and acceleration through the courses.

Stop spreading misinformation. Retract or I’ll report to Jeff to remove.

-STEM major/career (including several college-level math courses)

DP. Obviously this limits math since FCPS high schools have math classes beyond calculus.

Dial it back a notch.

- BSEE who took Algebra 1 in 7th grade and Multivar as a senior in FCPS years ago

You are misinformed. VMPI doesn’t touch that.

School districts can continue to offer all of those classes beyond algebra. Use offer dual enrollment, etc.

They very clearly state that. Stop spreading misinformation.

“Follow the math path!” 2 classes starting 11-12 when they mention calculus. It’s literally front and center on the page. Oh and also if you attended the meetings you would see they backtracked to claim schools could adjust per student. However the push is all about avoiding different tracking for students so it really is a bunch of public appeasement without making a lot of sense working the original proposed framework. Like I said please review the underlying studies fueling the initiative behind VMPI. The goal is made very clear early on it’s important to understand the fundamental reasons for the changes to see why this whole “oh no we didn’t say that” type of response doesn’t logically fit. It is all about putting kids in same classes regardless of ability, not tracking students based on ability grouping and yes capping when calculus is offered under the “Math Path”. Rather I am interested in how you see schools provided for advanced mathematics needs under the proposed curriculum or how will schools provide for mathematically gifted students without tracking them or allowing them to take classes separate from the main “math path” based on their math level. It fundamentally goes against the whole premise of their idea math is for everyone, not everyone needs calculus, relinquish your privilege etc etc.

On the original infographic they included grade levels on the pathways. As in, the default path. Like today, Math 6 would by default be taken in 6th grade.

But that was clearly misunderstood so they removed the grade levels from the infographic. And they have since very clearly explained how schools districts could accelerate kids and offer compressed courses - just like they do today. They even showed a sample pathway - I shared a screengrab on one of the other threads.

Stop spreading misinformation.

Ok let me spell it in layman’s term. Underlying cited support -detrack, it’s inherently racist, group math, revise math to make easier for more students
Original VMPI-keep groups mixed ability, teacher to teach to all (which as amazing as teachers are is going to be teach to lowest common denominator), “not everyone needs calculus”, no tracking -remember it’s racist segregation. In all seriousness from one of the supporting documents.
Public backlash-ok do our VMPI but schools can still let kids do advanced. Ok so this is the important part-you know the goal right, equitable outcomes. Which is inherently problematic in of itself. However the premise is tracking -bad, math inequities exist, middle class privilege needs to be given up for equity in outcomes to show they “bridged the gap”. how do you take at face value the appeasement they offer when it fundamentally goes against the premise the entire change rests on?!? Also if students can track and do all the same advanced math why all the group ability classes and no tracking pushed through VMPI. The math doesn’t add up!