Basketball hoop in street

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Anonymous wrote:This is why you walk over and talk with neighbors.

Do this. And if they don't move it within 24 hours, I would consider it abandoned property and I would put it on the listserv/Nextdoor and saying free basketball hoop, yours if you move it.

But I can be a b1tch. YMMV.

Would you do the same if they parked their car on the public street in front of your house?

Cars and basketball hoops are entirely different. One belongs in the street and one does not.

According to whom? You? I assume the only difference in your broken brain is that you personally get some benefit out of placing your private property in a publicly owned space, so cars are okie dokie, but because you have no use for a basketball hoop someone else’s private property in a public space is a nuisance…

If you think putting a basketball hoop in the street in front of another's house is ok, where does it stop? What other items are ok to put in the street?

I thought the street was for cars, either driving or parked, so please enlighten.

Well now I admit you’ve got me wondering. ARE streets for cars, driving or parked? May people ride bicycles in the streets? Scooters? May we walk in the streets? May children draw with chalk in the streets? What about skateboards, are those okay?

I did a half hearted search for Arlington’s fair use guidelines pertaining to streets but came up empty handed, so please enlighten ME as to how many laws my family is breaking when we use the streets without a car.

The rhetorical questions again...just make it easy for us....tell us what you want us to think, then we can say yes or no, we will now on think this.

Okay here’s a yes or no question:

Does a person have the right to store/place private property in/on a public space for any length of time?

No one has to answers your questions, particularly your questions that you intend for readers to answer to come around to your point of view because oh, they are going to realize how non sensical they are being now that you have given them something to think about. People simply believe that basketball hoops do not belong in the street, based on what streets are intended for and used for. If you want streets to be used for all sorts of things that you can believe that, your brain your right, but that's you.

I provided a yes/no question to a poster who specifically requested a yes/no question.

And to be clear: Changing one’s mind about an issue as more information is made available and/or is presented in a different way is not a moral failing or an intellectual defeat. Your previous post is like a microcosm of today’s political discourse. Dig those heels in and stick your fingers in your ears - you are part of the problem.

no, you are a sign of today's political discourse in that you insist that all come around to your point of view because it is morally superior. You are not providing information, you are speaking to your preferences. We do not have to share preferences. your questions are not in good faith--the point of them is to poke holes in what you think are logical fallacies, but your preferences are not logical, they are just preferences. you can say what about this what about that till the cows home home, doesn't mean people need to do what makes your happy. It is just not a requirement.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

if you want to report the car, you do you. why should we care what you do. if one us doesn't, don't worry about it. If one of us does, don't worry about it. Why is this a discussion point? No one is accountable to you.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

OP here. It does get used. And I know this because I can hear it. But often not by the kids of the family that put it there. And not by the kids in the house they put it in front of either.

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Anonymous wrote:This is why you walk over and talk with neighbors.

Do this. And if they don't move it within 24 hours, I would consider it abandoned property and I would put it on the listserv/Nextdoor and saying free basketball hoop, yours if you move it.

But I can be a b1tch. YMMV.

Would you do the same if they parked their car on the public street in front of your house?

Cars and basketball hoops are entirely different. One belongs in the street and one does not.

According to whom? You? I assume the only difference in your broken brain is that you personally get some benefit out of placing your private property in a publicly owned space, so cars are okie dokie, but because you have no use for a basketball hoop someone else’s private property in a public space is a nuisance…

If you think putting a basketball hoop in the street in front of another's house is ok, where does it stop? What other items are ok to put in the street?

I thought the street was for cars, either driving or parked, so please enlighten.

Well now I admit you’ve got me wondering. ARE streets for cars, driving or parked? May people ride bicycles in the streets? Scooters? May we walk in the streets? May children draw with chalk in the streets? What about skateboards, are those okay?

I did a half hearted search for Arlington’s fair use guidelines pertaining to streets but came up empty handed, so please enlighten ME as to how many laws my family is breaking when we use the streets without a car.

The rhetorical questions again...just make it easy for us....tell us what you want us to think, then we can say yes or no, we will now on think this.

Okay here’s a yes or no question:

Does a person have the right to store/place private property in/on a public space for any length of time?

This is the question. It's not about whether people can bike in the street (yes), walk in the street (yes if there are no sidewalks with rules as to where to walk) and allow children to draw with chalk in the streets (terrible idea). It's about whether you can plop your personal semi-permanent property in the street in front of your neighbor's house. Yes I know the legalities are the same in front of your own house but other people would care less there at least.

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OP, walk over to whomever owns it. Offer them $50 to buy it. Buy it. Then, get it hauled away.

If it bothers you so much, pay some to have things the way you want.

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on second thought ... pp again (18:29). As part of the buying process, do reveal the hoop's future.

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If the neighbor moves the basketball hoop into their driveway, it'll get it out of the street, but it won't help with the noise that was mentioned.

When I was a teenager, my parents poured a concrete pad in our backyard and put up a basketball hoop. I shot baskets there almost every day after school for 4 years. It was therapeutic and helped me get through high school. I'm sorry my neighbors probably hated hearing it.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

OP here. It does get used. And I know this because I can hear it. But often not by the kids of the family that put it there. And not by the kids in the house they put it in front of either.

No where have you mentioned talking to the neighbor whose house it is in front of. So it’s very likely the hoop owners asked the hoop hosters if they could place the hoop in front of their house — I’m assuming there is some difference in grade or traffic flow or whatnot thst makes sense. You have no idea, just upset that a hoop is on the street.

It’s getting used, apparently by the whole community (which is often the intent) which is nice for some people, clearly not for you. Do you have kids?

The reason it’s on the street is two fold — you said there is limited parking, which means the owners likely want to keep their drive way free to park because the street can be limited. The basketball does consume some parking space area but much less than a car so may not really impact capacity greatly but if the street is always full, you might get the county to move it. Just take regular photos.

But they put it on public land for the public to use, so you really need to show harm to community.

Is this Lyon Village? What else has such limited parking with SFH?

But you are unlikely to prevail here, these are all over Arlington and this one gets used.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

Yes, that is the status quo. You can believe that you do not like the status quo and others are free to be happy with status quo (including thinking that cars and parking are not evil).

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

Yes, that is the status quo. You can believe that you do not like the status quo and others are free to be happy with status quo (including thinking that cars and parking are not evil).

If the status quo ain’t the actual law, then Too bad, so sad. Times change. Or do you still want segregated neighborhoods, too?

Seriously, get over yourself. The kids just want to shoot hoops.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

Yes, that is the status quo. You can believe that you do not like the status quo and others are free to be happy with status quo (including thinking that cars and parking are not evil).

If the status quo ain’t the actual law, then Too bad, so sad. Times change. Or do you still want segregated neighborhoods, too?

Seriously, get over yourself. The kids just want to shoot hoops.

Progressives compare everything they prefer to fighting for the civil rights movement but this is peak use.

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

OP here. It does get used. And I know this because I can hear it. But often not by the kids of the family that put it there. And not by the kids in the house they put it in front of either.

No where have you mentioned talking to the neighbor whose house it is in front of. So it’s very likely the hoop owners asked the hoop hosters if they could place the hoop in front of their house — I’m assuming there is some difference in grade or traffic flow or whatnot thst makes sense. You have no idea, just upset that a hoop is on the street.

It’s getting used, apparently by the whole community (which is often the intent) which is nice for some people, clearly not for you. Do you have kids?

The reason it’s on the street is two fold — you said there is limited parking, which means the owners likely want to keep their drive way free to park because the street can be limited. The basketball does consume some parking space area but much less than a car so may not really impact capacity greatly but if the street is always full, you might get the county to move it. Just take regular photos.

But they put it on public land for the public to use, so you really need to show harm to community.

Is this Lyon Village? What else has such limited parking with SFH?

But you are unlikely to prevail here, these are all over Arlington and this one gets used.

No, they did not ask the neighbor to put it in front of their house, I guess because they didn't want to block parking in front of their own house. How is that ok?

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Anonymous wrote:If it’s on their own property, it’s not illegal. If it’s not, that’s illegal and you have the right to complain. You can report it to the city.

Is the space on the street in front of your house considered your property?

No. This thread is full of a bunch of entitled AHs who complain about kids playing outside in “their” beloved extra parking spot one minute and then probably turn around and complain about excessive screen time for kids and “why don’t kids play outside anymore?” the next minute.

Entitled a-holes like…the kind of person who would put up a basketball hoop in front of their neighbor’s house instead of their own?

The neighbor doesn’t own the street, even if it is *gasp* in front of their house!

No normal person would put it somewhere other than in front of their own house, unless they were an entitled a-hole

Exactly, it is a nuisance to others when it's in front of someone else's house.

Americans hate children, the outdoors, and physical activity. All are considered to be a nuisance.

NP. I love all three of those things, but in my neighborhood, we have tons of basketball hoops, but you rarely see anyone using them. Maybe for a bit when it’s brand new, but eventually the novelty wears off and it just sits there for years.

Do you have cameras trained on the hoops? Do you sit in your living room staring out your front window intently watching these hoops all day? I rarely see my neighbors drive their cars, but that doesn’t mean they rarely drive them, and it certainly doesn’t mean I’m going to try to get their cars towed.

You don't need to look out the window -- bouncing basketballs are very, very loud.

You didn’t say you rarely hear anyone using them, you said you rarely see anyone using them… maybe they are being considerate and using those new fangled extra bouncy foam basketballs.

My neighbor owns an EV. I never hear him use it. I guess that means it’s abandoned.

NP. Oh shit you totally schooled PP! If she said see instead of hear that totally negates the fact that every neighbor can hear every single time anyone is playing basketball right outside

The poster was stating what she believes to be true, presumably because she wants it to be true (that the basketball hoops are rarely used). The poster was not stating what she knows to be true, because as she demonstrated with just the tiniest push back against her assertion, she does not know that the hoops are rarely used. Unless she’s actively monitoring these hoops all day for days on end, she has no clue. (i.e. the “hoops are rarely used” poster was talking out of her a$$)

Hope this helps!

Everyone anywhere nearby knows when someone is playing basketball. You conceded this when you said the kids must be using new-fangled foam balls, because even you know normal bballs make a ton of noise. Anyone who works from home is well aware of any basketball happening on their block.

Unless the kids are using the new fangled foam balls, as you just mentioned. I don’t understand why this is so difficult for you.

But this argument is also funny because you are essentially complaining that the hoops are unused and so shouldn’t be there because they are a nuisance, even though by your own admission you never hear or see anyone using them… so is the lack of noise the nuisance? They’re taking up valuable real estate where a car could be idling?

If no one has seen or heard the hoop being used in a very long time, why should it remain? Especially in front of someone else’s house

I’ve never seen or heard you use your car, and it’s always parked out front whenever I happen to look out front. Shall I call a tow truck?

Yes, if a car is parked for weeks or months without being used you should report it. Next?

I didn’t say it hasn’t been used for weeks or months. I said I haven’t seen or heard it being used. Do you not understand the difference? It’s subtle, I know.

Yeah, I fully understand you think you’re right here and you’re trying to say “but what about foam balls” and “but I didn’t HEAR your car being used” but this comes down to whether it’s cool to put your basketball hoop in front of someone else’s house, and it’s not. Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t understand how things work.

Anyone arguing otherwise doesn’t respect your personal preferences. And that is ALL this argument is about. There is a well-used basketball hoop somewhere on OP’s street, and SHE would prefer that it not be there because… she prefers to have some random car there instead.

Yes, that is the status quo. You can believe that you do not like the status quo and others are free to be happy with status quo (including thinking that cars and parking are not evil).

If the status quo ain’t the actual law, then Too bad, so sad. Times change. Or do you still want segregated neighborhoods, too?

Seriously, get over yourself. The kids just want to shoot hoops.

The new world order is everyone just does what they want? Well fine, I (this isn't OP, another person BTW) don't want the hoop in front of my house so I can just take it and thow it away.