Why does Biden keep pushing free handouts for college?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No, it isn't illegal and Biden certainly isn't the first use this type of tactic ahead of an upcoming election. Assuming you're new to politics, get used to it. It's what they do.

Yes, in fact it is. Even the Supreme Court has ruled against him TWICE on the issue.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

[Anonymous]

Biden is buying votes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Biden is buying votes.

His constituency is youth voters.
Trump's constituency is billionaires who he buys with tax cuts for the top 1%.

Voters can choose accordingly. The billionaire tax cuts are more expensive than these "college handouts" OP finds so distasteful. I personally find a President who invests in our youth's future much more attractive.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Biden is buying votes.

His constituency is youth voters.
Trump's constituency is billionaires who he buys with tax cuts for the top 1%.

Voters can choose accordingly. The billionaire tax cuts are more expensive than these "college handouts" OP finds so distasteful. I personally find a President who invests in our youth's future much more attractive.

Returning stolen property is not buying votes. You should be appalled by criminal behavior even for a robin hood cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

DP here: what are you blabbering about? The current student loan laws allow forgiveness of outstanding principal and interest amounts after 10 years of borrower repayments for public service workers (PSLF), 20 years of borrower repayments for undergrad loans (applies to anyone regardless of job or income), and 25 years of borrower repayments for graduate loans (applies to anyone regardless of job or income).

These forgiveness programs were approved into law by bipartisan efforts in the 1990s and 2000s. There is nothing illegal about Biden applying forgiveness to these borrowers under these elements of the current law.

The Supreme Court knocked Biden back on his plan to forgive $10-20K to qualifying borrowers in a blanket manner using an (tortured) interpretation of the HEROES Act.

[Anonymous]

The fact that Republicans keep hammering Biden for "not doing anything about the cost of living" then hammer him again when he actually does one of the very few things in his power to directly put money back in the pockets of Americans shows you that they're not serious people.

There are only two explanations, and neither of them are good: either they actually do want Biden to do something but only if it helps them and nobody else (selfish and stupid) or they don't actually care and just want to trash him no matter what he does.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

Yes, buying votes is illegal. But what Biden is doing is not buying votes. Is that simple enough for you?

[Anonymous]

[Anonymous]

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So, people like the spokesperson at Columbia who is pursuing her doctorate in Marxist poetry, or something like that, will get loans paid off by tax payers.....
Lovely.

[Anonymous]

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So, people like the spokesperson at Columbia who is pursuing her doctorate in Marxist poetry, or something like that, will get loans paid off by tax payers.....
Lovely.

No, this is for undergraduate and trade school loans. PHD does not come under that category.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

So, people like the spokesperson at Columbia who is pursuing her doctorate in Marxist poetry, or something like that, will get loans paid off by tax payers.....
Lovely.

No, this is for undergraduate and trade school loans. PHD does not come under that category.

Citation for this claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

Yes, buying votes is illegal. But what Biden is doing is not buying votes. Is that simple enough for you?

Its gonna be funny when he asks for voters to vote for him because he paid off their student debt during a campaign speech.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why?
49.1% of voters age 18-24 years are registered to vote, of those, 39.4% voted in 2016 and 48% in 2020
62.7% of voters age 25-34 years are registered to vote
69.3% of voters age 35-44 years are registered to vote

These two age groups combined (25-44) only 49% voted in 2016 and 55% voted in 2020.

These are the majority of people that still hold outstanding student loans. So, many of those age demographics either are not registered or do not vote. The majority of those who are registered and vote regularly are already committed to one side or the other.

The best way to improve numbers is to get people who are not registered, to register and get those are registered to vote, to actually vote. And Biden wants to encourage uncommitted voters to register and vote for him. So he is bribing the unregistered and the apathetic into voting for him.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/999919/share-people-registered-vote-age/
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1096299/voter-turnout-presidential-elections-by-age-historical/

This is the bottom line. And, in so doing, he is having the rest of America, many of whom make $65K a year or less, pay for the loans.
Interesting that Trump is currently on trial for a $130,000 pay off to "influence an election" yet Joe Biden is spending billions of taxpayer money in pay offs to influence an election.

I'm the PP you are responding to. The difference is that what Trump did was illegal. What Biden is doing is legal.

Laws have meaning and purpose and as long as they are in place, you have to follow them whether or not the logistics make sense.

Biden is buying votes. It is very much illegal.

No. Those who receive tuition forgiveness are free to vote for whomever they want. There is no requirement that in order receive tuition forgiveness you have to vote for Biden. That would be illegal.

Otherwise you could say that the first found of stimulus checks that Trump sent out during the pandemic were illegal buying of votes. After Congress voted to send out the first round of checks during the pandemic to help those who had lost employment during the shutdowns, Trump put a hold on the payments for several weeks because he wanted the IRS to replace the commissioner's signature on the check with Trump's signature. It was a cost of several hundred thousand dollars to stop the process, change the signature, then resubmit all of the payment checks. Trump wanted to make sure that his signature was on the check. And this happened during the last few months of the 2020 election cycle. That came far closer to trying to buying votes, than what Biden has just done.

But neither is actually vote buying.

Again buying votes which is illegal. You wrote a bunch of things that didn't change the premise.

Yes, buying votes is illegal. But what Biden is doing is not buying votes. Is that simple enough for you?

Its gonna be funny when he asks for voters to vote for him because he paid off their student debt during a campaign speech.

Still beating that dead horse, huh?
Every candidate tells segments of their constituency what they have done or will do for that constituency, whether it is farmers, small business, women concerned about reproductive healthcare, etc. Nothing wrong with that.